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Old 11-06-2007, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: Ugh, tough fold but I think it\'s right. Thoughts?

Who said I didn't think he'd pay me off if I hit?
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: Ugh, tough fold but I think it\'s right. Thoughts?

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Who said I didn't think he'd pay me off if I hit?

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No he said pay you off with worse if you hit, and it seems like given that you want to fold here you think he's only shoving better which makes calling both preflop and flop weird
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:30 AM
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Default Re: Ugh, tough fold but I think it\'s right. Thoughts?

I think the villain will pay me off with worse, doesn't necessarily mean he's shoving with worse though
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:34 AM
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I would have to call, because if I were villain I'd be pushing way more than AQ simply because I can't put you on a hand.
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:36 AM
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Isn't my line the most straight forward way to play a flush? I mean wtf!?
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: Ugh, tough fold but I think it\'s right. Thoughts?

an di"m not sayin git's a good thing, just that it seems like I'm def representing a flush
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:58 AM
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Default Re: Ugh, tough fold but I think it\'s right. Thoughts?

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fist.

pump.

call.

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What do you put villain on?

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QXs, sets, A/KQ

pretty much a whole bunch of hands we beat
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: Ugh, tough fold but I think it\'s right. Thoughts?

Turn bet size is really bad if you're going to fold.
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:15 AM
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Isn't my line the most straight forward way to play a flush? I mean wtf!?

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ok fine but if you make your flush and are considering a fold then that usually means that somethings gone pretty badly wrong on a previous street somewhere, do you not agree that hitting your draw then folding is strange
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:26 AM
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Turn bet size is really bad if you're going to fold.

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excellent point.

i don't think he should be shoving the turn with ANY made hands given your line/range, but i don't really know how he expects you to respond with each segment of your range. meh.

i'd call
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