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100: 2pair faces river push
villain is a 19/6/3 regular
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (3 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com Button ($19) Hero ($117.05) BB ($155) Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB calls $3. Flop: ($8) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, BB calls $6. Turn: ($20) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, BB calls $16. River: ($52) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $129</font>, Hero ? only $56 more to call |
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Re: 100: 2pair faces river push
Your hand has become a bluff catcher. I'm a calling station but I'm folding here. Its possible hes doing this with busted diamonds. But I don't think you can call here without a read. He could very well have something like X [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
I would typically check this river to induce a bluff. |
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Re: 100: 2pair faces river push
It looks like you are beat, but you are getting 56:160 ish to call, so need to win about 1 in 4 to break even.
The more i look at it, the more i find it hard to put him on a hand with an 8 in it that hasn't raised the flop or turn. This is an excellent river to bluff on as you have to lay down a lot of strong Aces here. I think i call, i may see J10 here but a lot of the two pair hands on the flop or turn probably raise you so hes either got nothing or an 8/J10. |
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Re: 100: 2pair faces river push
do most people feel check/calling river is a better line than bet/folding?
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Re: 100: 2pair faces river push
i think you gotta call because of odds and a good river to bluff on JT would be one of the hands that would have this same line i guess
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Re: 100: 2pair faces river push
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do most people feel check/calling river is a better line than bet/folding? [/ QUOTE ] check calling is a good way to induce a bluf from busted Flush draw but i dont mind bet/calling bet/folding either |
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Re: 100: 2pair faces river push
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do most people feel check/calling river is a better line than bet/folding? [/ QUOTE ] no, and i probably wouldn't fold anyways. unless villain is a good player, he could be overvaluing a bunch of hands...AK/AQ, etc. this is 3-handed. you're going to have increased variance, but you have a really strong hand here. maybe he even thinks you're chopping with him or something stupid. |
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Re: 100: 2pair faces river push
i am still having trouble with this hand:
1) this is not three handed, this is 9 handed, i do not why the converter did this. 2) the reason i bet instead of checked is because i wanted value from AK/AJ. i did not think past that much at the time. i feel like in Ace high flops that villain has an ace far more than he has a draw. 3) his all in troubles me. i really do not see a semi-decent player pushing with AK here. that and a busted draw is really all we beat because i doubt anyone would push AJ. also, with the likely possibility of Xd 8d, is this really a call? |
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Re: 100: 2pair faces river push
3) (cont.) what about AQ?
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Re: 100: 2pair faces river push
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i am still having trouble with this hand: 1) this is not three handed, this is 9 handed, i do not why the converter did this. 2) the reason i bet instead of checked is because i wanted value from AK/AJ. i did not think past that much at the time. i feel like in Ace high flops that villain has an ace far more than he has a draw. 3) his all in troubles me. i really do not see a semi-decent player pushing with AK here. that and a busted draw is really all we beat because i doubt anyone would push AJ. also, with the likely possibility of Xd 8d, is this really a call? [/ QUOTE ] BT2, you should change the OP then. 9-handed against a reg, this is either a monster or air. I'm going to say this is a monster, especially since you have such great odds to call. I can't really figure out what hand plays the way it does though...really, even if he was sticking to his X8 hand all the way to the river, does he really put you on such a strong hand as 2p to be able to call his river shove? i think b/f is a fine line. you may be bluffed, but lots of worse hands are calling, namely AK, AJ, AT. etc. it really is a weird line, most of the better hands would be raising the turn, if not the flop. |
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