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Old 11-03-2007, 10:53 PM
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Default annoying spot with the nuts.

sounds silly but it is annoying.

whats your turn plan here, betting just gets it AI vs an ace and folds out all worse hands but we cant check. maybe going for some absurd overbet and get him to call light thinking were repping an ace?

villain is 22/20/6 over 40. im LAG here at 33/29/inf over small sample. im squeezing here for value and SB is like 34/0/.36 over 40 hands

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $110.25
Hero (BB): $158.10
UTG: $43.75
CO: $106.05
BTN: $154.10

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $3.50</font>, SB calls $3, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, BTN calls $10.50, SB folds

Flop: ($31.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $24</font>, BTN calls $24

Turn: ($79.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: annoying spot with the nuts.

Bet for protection.
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: annoying spot with the nuts.

Betting close to pot always looks like a bluff, that's probably what I'd do.
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: annoying spot with the nuts.

he has sd value like 99% of the time here anyway. might aswell bet.
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: annoying spot with the nuts.

bet, call the shove, get freerolled, ???, UNPROFIT
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: annoying spot with the nuts.

bet sounds good to me. how much. value bet just looks so obvious to having an ace because he knows im not folding after i bet the turn, or am i way off here
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Old 11-03-2007, 10:58 PM
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Default Re: annoying spot with the nuts.

What if you wait 5 seconds or so and underbet around 30? Maybe he'd bluff-shove over that or call it somewhat light? I don't really see overbetting getting called by anything other than an A.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: annoying spot with the nuts.

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What if you wait 5 seconds or so and underbet around 30? Maybe he'd bluff-shove over that or call it somewhat light? I don't really see overbetting getting called by anything other than an A.

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ok i considered this. lets say we take this line and river is club that pairs the board. he has less then PSB left and sets/flush just got me. would we just shove, c/c (which loses so much value to hands we beat, and shoving alos make make him fold a worse hand.


grrrrrr damn that turn
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: annoying spot with the nuts.

Probably c/f. I can't really think of a hand he'd get to the river with that he'd want to turn into a bluff. Worst case scenario he gets you off a split, but I guess I could live with that.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: annoying spot with the nuts.

if i bet 30 on turn im getting 3:1 on his river stack. pot will be 140 hell have 70
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