Could a reciever stop the clock by throwing the ball OOB? - Page 2

Assani Fisher · #11 10-15-2007, 09:37 PM

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I think of a similar thing when a running back is about to be stopped behind the LOS. Why not just throw it away (forward pass OB).

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if any lineman were passed the line of scrimmage at any point before the pass it'd be ineligible receiver downfield penalty.

Kos13 · #12 10-15-2007, 09:43 PM

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My brother mentioned this yesterday during the games and it got me wondering.

Let's say a team is out of TOs, what would happen if a receiver caught the ball and it out of bounds, backwards (like a missed lateral), would that stop the clock without a penalty?

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I'm pretty sure this would work. It is essentially what happened in the USC/ND game a couple years ago when Leinart "fumbled" on his missed TD jump. He sort of tossed the ball OOB (about half a yard backwards), and they stopped the clock because it was a fumble that went OOB.

I've always wondered why teams don't do this, though, so that may mean that it's illegal.

kidcolin · #13 10-15-2007, 09:44 PM

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Not sure of the exact ruling, but a player can stop in the middle of the field and yell like "DOWN" or "STOP", and they would stop the play/clock if no one is near him.

FWIW I could be completely wrong about this and it may have just been a dream.

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RickAstleyFan · #14 10-15-2007, 09:54 PM

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Not sure of the exact ruling, but a player can stop in the middle of the field and yell like "DOWN" or "STOP", and they would stop the play/clock if no one is near him.

FWIW I could be completely wrong about this and it may have just been a dream.

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Thayer's got a lot of gems, but this tops them all

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Toro · #15 10-15-2007, 10:00 PM

This will stop the clock imo. A lateral pass can be made from any place on the field and if it is not caught, the ball is live. So if the lateral happens to go out of bounds the clock would have to stop.

Assani Fisher · #16 10-15-2007, 10:03 PM

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Not sure of the exact ruling, but a player can stop in the middle of the field and yell like "DOWN" or "STOP", and they would stop the play/clock if no one is near him.

FWIW I could be completely wrong about this and it may have just been a dream.

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Thayer's got a lot of gems, but this tops them all

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agreed...solid post there that wasn't getting the love it deserved.

THAY3R · #17 10-15-2007, 10:05 PM

Does anyone know what I'm talking about though?

I could've sworn I've heard of something where a guy waves his hands and yells down and then they can have one more play for a FG or something.

legend42 · #18 10-15-2007, 10:19 PM

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Does anyone know what I'm talking about though?

I could've sworn I've heard of something where a guy waves his hands and yells down and then they can have one more play for a FG or something.

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I know what you're talking about- something like this happened a few years ago. I remember the coach talking about how they had practiced it, and they called it a "declare down" play. I can't remember the circumstances, or even whether it was college or NFL, though (if it were NCAA, it seems like kneeling down would be sufficient). And I'm pretty sure the clock doesn't automatically stop- you have to have a timeout, or do it on change of possession, etc.

gusmahler · #19 10-15-2007, 10:19 PM

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Does anyone know what I'm talking about though?

I could've sworn I've heard of something where a guy waves his hands and yells down and then they can have one more play for a FG or something.

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On a punt return, a returner can call for a fair catch and the team can attempt a field goal (or drop kick)

Last year, this caused some confusion in a Rams/Cardinals game. Rams punt the ball. The Cards get called for a penalty. Clock runs out. The Cards fair catch the ball. Everyone thinks the returner is an idiot for calling a fair catch. But the plan is to have Neil Rackers attempt a 75 yard field goal.

The Rams decline the penalty, then realize that the Cards will have a free kick at the end of the game. So they change their mind and accept the penalty, then kneel on the final play of the game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_catch_kick

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=28...6&week=REG3

legend42 · #20 10-15-2007, 10:28 PM

I just realized another obscure rule you might be referring to. The one where a player can fair catch a punt at the end of a half or game, and even if the clock has expired, the team gets one more play from that spot, including the option of a free kick for a FG, with the defense lined up ten yards down the field. That's a weird one.

Edit: gus beat me to it