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Old 11-19-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default JTs turns flush, river decision

New to the game (~20 hands), the table seems very loose and passive.

0.02/0.04 Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Hero has T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] UTG+1

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 10 players)
UTG calls, Hero calls, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#777777">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, SB calls

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10.0 SB, 5 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.0 BB, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#777777">BB folds</font>, UTG calls

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (14.0 BB, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls</font>, SB calls
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:03 PM
LukeSLTS LukeSLTS is offline
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Default Re: JTs turns flush, river decision

Preflop is OK and you got your desired result of multiway action.

On the flop I am inclined to raise for a free card here. You stated this is a loose-passive table and you already have three callers behind you. You may also buy the button. This is a good spot to use this play. The way you played it one player left to act is fine.

The turn is fine. I don't really know what to put UTG on here. Whatever it is he has played it terribly.

The river call is OK too because you are going for the overcall from the SB who likely has an ace. A raise would probably be better because I think you are ahead of both players and neither are throwing away an ace in this big pot.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: JTs turns flush, river decision

There is a good enough chance that villian has A7, A5, or A2 here that I would just call. It's also possible someone has the higher flush, but I think you would have known that on the turn.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: JTs turns flush, river decision

raise flop for value.

raise river for value. utg has trips way more than he has a boat.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: JTs turns flush, river decision

Raise the flop for value.

I think going for the overcall is probably okay here. Obviously I want to stick in another raise, but if UTG 3-bets then we're probably toast. I'll just try to collect another bet from SB and avoid a reraise.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:09 PM
Sushiglutton Sushiglutton is offline
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Default Re: JTs turns flush, river decision

I would raise the flop for value and to maybe get a FC, since the table is loose-passive. On the river I just call. We have allready represented the flush on the turn. Seems weird of villain to donk trips here. Also SB is more likely to call one than two, so often we gain nothing by raising.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: JTs turns flush, river decision

i think raising is marginally better than calling
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: JTs turns flush, river decision

You've got the best hand here a lot of the time, but by just calling you're a lot more likely to get SB to put money in. Calling here wins you the same amount as raising when you're ahead and loses the least when you're behind.
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Old 11-19-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: JTs turns flush, river decision

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You've got the best hand here a lot of the time, but by just calling you're a lot more likely to get SB to put money in. Calling here wins you the same amount as raising when you're ahead and loses the least when you're behind.

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disagree with the first part of this given stakes and the behind players tendencies thus far. if he is calling one he is probly calling 2
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Old 11-19-2007, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: JTs turns flush, river decision

Raise the flop. Raise the river. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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