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Old 02-07-2007, 08:37 PM
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I'm betting 100%. I'd almost always C-bet with nothing here, so I figure you should balance that by sometimes having the goods when you do bet. Playing "strong is weak, weak is strong" is a mistake IMO.
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:39 PM
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always bet flop with any 2 here

check behind on turn a fair amount unless he is a super station
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:42 PM
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Playing "strong is weak, weak is strong" is a mistake IMO.

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I agreed with some of your post, but checking behind is not a strong is weak, weak is strong thing. I think we are trying to balance the times we check behind with KK-TT, which I hope most people are doing at least some percentage of the time.

I check here sometimes, I bet sometimes. If villain has been calling 3 bets light, I'm much more inclined to bet so that I can stack a worse A. If he has been pretty tight, I'm going to try to get value out of a pocket pair by checking. I don't think letting him hit his 2 outer for free is that costly of a mistake.
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:45 PM
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I think we are trying to balance the times we check behind with KK-TT

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this is so unnecessary at these limits
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:53 PM
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I think we are trying to balance the times we check behind with KK-TT

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this is so unnecessary at these limits

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nobody at these limits really keeps track.
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:55 PM
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Depends on the villain. Some people are incapable of folding KK here, some will float at least one street with it. One line would be to try something funky against some opponents like c-betting something like half a pot. If you get called, you can check the turn behind and valuebet river (I think this line gets the most out of something like KK if they call the flop). Your weak c-bet might even induce a reraise bluff.

I think it's a bit hard to generalize these situations though, history with the opponents affects soooo much - has he checkraised you? Have you c-bet 100%? Have you reraised lots preflop? Does your opponent have a clue?

Checking here also contradicts the fact that you'd most likely take one last stab at it with KK- as well, no?! Or is this autocheck to you with KK-? I could see AK and QQ- calling a reraise in these spots often, hell, maybe even KK. If you c-bet with KK, I'd imagine it being wise c-betting with AK here as well?
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:44 PM
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Totally opponent specific. Remember, you also want to get max value from AQ, AJ. Against very agressive, tricky, but good players, you may want to check, but its more often a bet, since you gotta be betting here with any 2 in a 3 bet pot.
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:50 PM
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I pretty much always bet AK here

Im MUCH more likely to check weaker aces
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Old 02-07-2007, 10:28 PM
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I check like always if villain is at least sensible. If I'm playing against a donk I just try and vb every street.
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Old 02-07-2007, 11:01 PM
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I'm betting 100%. I'd almost always C-bet with nothing here, so I figure you should balance that by sometimes having the goods when you do bet. Playing "strong is weak, weak is strong" is a mistake IMO.

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Sorry I mis-read the OP. I thought we had just raised, not 3-bet. I guess I'd usually bet here, but not too large - say 1/2 pot. But this is a lot more opponent specific than betting into a limper.
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