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Old 11-28-2007, 09:31 PM
BCPVP BCPVP is offline
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B: No, because to fund that program you need to force others to pay for it
Person B is giving more importance to absolute property rights than to a natural state problem

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How about this?

Question: Should we allow slavery because we need cotton to prevent people from having cold winters due to not having coats?

B: No, because to fund that program you need to force others to pay for it

Person B is giving more importance to absolute property rights than to a natural state problem

Same damn thing as what you said.

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Wow, how can you actually oppose schoolchildren getting hot meals? You are a terrible person obviously.

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AlexM wants children to die cold and hungry, obv.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

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B: No, because to fund that program you need to force others to pay for it
Person B is giving more importance to absolute property rights than to a natural state problem

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How about this?

Question: Should we allow slavery because we need cotton to prevent people from having cold winters due to not having coats?

B: No, because to fund that program you need to force others to pay for it

Person B is giving more importance to absolute property rights than to a natural state problem

Same damn thing as what you said.

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Wow, how can you actually oppose schoolchildren getting hot meals? You are a terrible person obviously.

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AlexM is a slave because he has to pay taxes , obv.

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Old 11-28-2007, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: Why Im no longer an ACist

AlexM who do you consider to be more of a slave, Bill Gates or a poor kid with neglecting parents that is born in AC land?
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:11 PM
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AlexM who do you consider to be more of a slave, Bill Gates or a poor kid with neglecting parents that is born in AC land?

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Uhm, Bill Gates is one of the masters in our society... When I own a giant corporation whose profits are based mostly on government tyranny, you can compare me to Bill Gates.

As for the child, to some extent all children are slaves, but with neglected parents, it's the same in AC land as in government land. Either people will notice and take the children away from them or people won't notice.

So... what do either of these people have to do with anything?
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:13 PM
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Either people will notice and take the children away from them or people won't notice

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You left out the 3rd option of people noticing but not caring enough to take them away.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:26 PM
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Either people will notice and take the children away from them or people won't notice

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You left out the 3rd option of people noticing but not caring enough to take them away.

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True, but I was only including the options that are equally likely, not the ones that are more likely under government than AC. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:46 PM
valenzuela valenzuela is offline
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AlexM, perhaps my example was way too far-fetched, anyway the point I want to make is that youre definiton of slavery is inadequate. The fact that you think that someone that lives on spacious house, a confortable car and a 9-5 job he enjoys is a slave just because he has to pay income tax says a lot about your worldview.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:34 AM
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AlexM, perhaps my example was way too far-fetched, anyway the point I want to make is that youre definiton of slavery is inadequate. The fact that you think that someone that lives on spacious house, a confortable car and a 9-5 job he enjoys is a slave just because he has to pay income tax says a lot about your worldview.

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What it says about my worldview isn't terribly relevant. Stop enslaving me.

Also, few people enjoy their jobs...
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