Police kill Polish man @ Vancouver Airport - Page 3

Blarg · #21 11-17-2007, 01:42 PM

Lotta ego problems in cops unfortunately.

Peter666 · #22 11-17-2007, 03:22 PM

It was just lazy policing. Rather than take the time to subdue him, the police thought they could zap him and get out of there quickly. He was a big guy and the police didn't want a physical confrontation. I can't say I blame them. Death by taser is very rare. If the man didn't die, this would have been a non-issue.

rothko · #23 11-17-2007, 03:36 PM

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It was just lazy policing. Rather than take the time to subdue him, the police thought they could zap him and get out of there quickly. He was a big guy and the police didn't want a physical confrontation. I can't say I blame them. Death by taser is very rare. If the man didn't die, this would have been a non-issue.

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R*R · #24 11-17-2007, 03:50 PM

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It was just lazy policing. Rather than take the time to subdue him, the police thought they could zap him and get out of there quickly. He was a big guy and the police didn't want a physical confrontation. I can't say I blame them. Death by taser is very rare. If the man didn't die, this would have been a non-issue.

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Well it's not an non-issue. Their improper procedure is completely unforgivable and their blatant use of uneccessary force should result in
severe punishment.

Peter666 · #25 11-17-2007, 03:55 PM

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It was just lazy policing. Rather than take the time to subdue him, the police thought they could zap him and get out of there quickly. He was a big guy and the police didn't want a physical confrontation. I can't say I blame them. Death by taser is very rare. If the man didn't die, this would have been a non-issue.

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Despite the compelling evidence, I'll say true. People are tasered everyday. Cops are tasered as part of their training.

Peter666 · #26 11-17-2007, 04:18 PM

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It was just lazy policing. Rather than take the time to subdue him, the police thought they could zap him and get out of there quickly. He was a big guy and the police didn't want a physical confrontation. I can't say I blame them. Death by taser is very rare. If the man didn't die, this would have been a non-issue.

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Well it's not an non-issue. Their improper procedure is completely unforgivable and their blatant use of uneccessary force should result in
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But it wasn't improper procedure. The Polish man did not follow the officer's instructions (he didn't place his hands on the counter) and exhibited assault like behaviour by throwing computer equipment around earlier. This is grounds for non-lethal use of force. It is up to the officer's discretion on what to use. I don't think the RCMP were out to get anyone here.

Blarg · #27 11-17-2007, 04:24 PM

People also die every day; that doesn't mean we shouldn't seek to avoid situations that might make it easier to happen.

And it also doesn't make kneeling on someone's neck a good idea, no matter how "efficient" one could claim it to be.

The uncomfortable thing is, people still matter. That's why we hire and actually bother to train cops, rather than just using cheap thugs to do the same jobs.

grando · #28 11-17-2007, 05:40 PM

Police officer 1: Should we taze him?
Police officer 2 (non-chalantly): yeah

rothko · #29 11-17-2007, 05:42 PM

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It was just lazy policing. Rather than take the time to subdue him, the police thought they could zap him and get out of there quickly. He was a big guy and the police didn't want a physical confrontation. I can't say I blame them. Death by taser is very rare. If the man didn't die, this would have been a non-issue.

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Despite the compelling evidence, I'll say true. People are tasered everyday. Cops are tasered as part of their training.

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have a look around at the news. taser incidents that do not result in death are being protested constantly.

it is not the job of the police to deal with a situation as quickly as possible. it is the job of the police to deal with a situation as best as possible: in a manner that is fair and safe.

rothko · #30 11-17-2007, 05:45 PM

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It was just lazy policing. Rather than take the time to subdue him, the police thought they could zap him and get out of there quickly. He was a big guy and the police didn't want a physical confrontation. I can't say I blame them. Death by taser is very rare. If the man didn't die, this would have been a non-issue.

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Well it's not an non-issue. Their improper procedure is completely unforgivable and their blatant use of uneccessary force should result in
severe punishment.

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But it wasn't improper procedure. The Polish man did not follow the officer's instructions (he didn't place his hands on the counter) and exhibited assault like behaviour by throwing computer equipment around earlier. This is grounds for non-lethal use of force. It is up to the officer's discretion on what to use. I don't think the RCMP were out to get anyone here.

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yes, it was improper procedure. tasers are supposed to be almost the last resort, just before firearms. they are meant to be used in situations where firearms would be used if there were no tasers.

furthermore, as i alluded to earlier, the officers did not attend to the victim properly after they literally jolted the life out of him.

it's not about "being out to get anyone." nobody's saying they rolled in thinking, "let's kill this [censored]." what's at issue is the incompetence of the officers.