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Old 11-14-2007, 05:43 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: Moving Up In Stakes

Arguing this with Guthrie is redundant. it's happened time and time again. He is one of the unlucky ones with a rigged account.
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Old 11-14-2007, 05:52 PM
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FGators ran bad over 1.6million hands, it can happen.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:09 PM
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Over 5K 16s, 39.54% of all my PF pushes were called. What kind of range to I put people on to avoid that?

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I'd put people on top 39.54% ...

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When called, I lost 54.27%. What kind of skill level is required to change that?

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Push top 45.72% (vs top 39.54% range) or less ...
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:49 PM
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Does how many tables you play have any effect on ROR.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:25 PM
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Does how many tables you play have any effect on ROR.

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No, assuming your ROI remains intact.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:26 PM
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if the possibility of a 90 buy-in dawnswing is 1 to 100.000 it isn't impossible that somone have it... i think it is possible, very unlucky but possible.
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:53 PM
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I think he meant 90$ downswing, as for 15 buy-ins

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No, 90 buy-ins. A 15 buy-in downswing was the start of a normal day. On one memorable day in September, I was called the first time I pushed in the first 15 tournies, and lost every one of them, 12, as I recall, with the best hand.

You can talk all you want about ICM and putting people on ranges, but eventually you have to push, and when I push, I get called, and when I get called, I lose. I am continually amazed at how people can consistently win all-ins regardless of the cards going in, but that appears to be what's required to be a winning player.



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if i was break even over 7000 sng's, i'd find a different way to play, a different game to play, or a different hobby.
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:14 PM
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if i was break even over 7000 sng's, i'd find a different way to play, a different game to play, or a different hobby.


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Can't quit now. Surely due for a sick heater to even out all the bad luck.
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:27 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Assuming your graph is entirely from the $16s, you seem to have some sort of massive leaks causing huge variance. I could be wrong but you seem to have very common massive downswing spikes for huge amounts of money. Even in the beginning when you were winning big you had large drop offs. I don't think most good ROI players have such huge variations in winnings over and over.
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:41 PM
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I had a 110 buyin downswing at the 60's earlier this year and I'm one of the best at that level. I was making a few mistakes but there's no way I was a losing player at that time.

A low stakes casual player shouldn't need more than 50 buy ins. Just remember the higher you move up the less your ROI will be and the more padding your bankroll will need.
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