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Old 11-09-2007, 04:03 PM
gehrig gehrig is offline
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Default Re: 50-100 river...

i think raising here is bad

lots of combos of straights
possible that he doesnt pay off a raise
even if folding to the raise is right theres still value in avoiding the 3bet bc ur never literally 0.00% good
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: 50-100 river...

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i think raising here is bad

lots of combos of straights
possible that he doesnt pay off a raise
even if folding to the raise is right theres still value in avoiding the 3bet bc ur never literally 0.00% good

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If you are literally 100% never good why would you mind a 3 bet?
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: 50-100 river...

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i think raising here is bad

lots of combos of straights
possible that he doesnt pay off a raise
even if folding to the raise is right theres still value in avoiding the 3bet bc ur never literally 0.00% good

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what other straights are there besides J8 - which he is not 3betting preflop, and even if he did he would likely throw in a semibluff cr somewhere to try to push ace high hands out by the river on this ragged board.

i was going to post something similar i.e. he is trying to 3bet here so often that raising doesn't really have much value but actually what does he play this way that would bet/3bet beside KJ? that one hand is outwieghed significantly by all the hands that just made top pair.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: 50-100 river...

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i think raising here is bad

lots of combos of straights
possible that he doesnt pay off a raise
even if folding to the raise is right theres still value in avoiding the 3bet bc ur never literally 0.00% good

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If you are literally 100% never good why would you mind a 3 bet?

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i meant that u always have more than 0.00% equity vs a 3bet

if ur good 0.05% theres value in avoiding a raise
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: 50-100 river...

If you were playing me my most likely holding would be KJ here. I would have to think a lot of other players too.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:46 PM
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that one hand is outwieghed significantly by all the hands that just made top pair.

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not really dude. just plug it into pokerstove and do some realistic weighting of hands (qj has to be severely weighted against bc it folds pf a lot and plays aggressively posflop a lot). also consider the other two points in my first post
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:51 PM
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so you're checkraising KQ/QJ/AQ?

i would be bet/calling those hands.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:52 PM
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probably not, i'm not sure where u got that idea from my post?
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:56 PM
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probably not, i'm not sure where u got that idea from my post?

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i was replying to geormit.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:56 PM
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oh
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