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Old 11-17-2007, 01:41 AM
MitchL MitchL is offline
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Default Head up vs good player

Villain in this hand is one of the better players in the room. I think he may be a little too tight, but he is aggressive and reads hands pretty well. Not sure how he views me, but he doesnt think Im bad. He is running terrible.

He opens utg, I 3bet red 99.

Flop:J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

He checks, I bet, he raises I call.

Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

He bets, I raise?
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Old 11-17-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: Head up vs good player

obv. He can certainly find a fold here.
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:35 AM
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obv. He can certainly find a fold here.

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Yeah this is probably pretty easy live.
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:44 AM
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I like it!
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:46 AM
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Yea this looks good. How does he react to running terrible? Does he go "oh [censored] it im calling down with QJ, they cant have it every time" or does he go "Oh [censored] it they have it every time, I'll save $40 and fold"
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:52 AM
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Yea this looks good. How does he react to running terrible? Does he go "oh [censored] it im calling down with QJ, they cant have it every time" or does he go "Oh [censored] it they have it every time, I'll save $40 and fold"

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He runs good usually(lol) so I am not sure, but I think the combination of it being me and my hand looking exactly like AK makes it easy. Also, he is too tight to have QJ here otherwise I would be more hesitant since he would think he had 5 outs. He has AJ or a flush draw every time.
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:32 AM
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Villain in this hand is one of the better players in the room. I think he may be a little too tight, but he is aggressive and reads hands pretty well. Not sure how he views me, but he doesnt think Im bad. He is running terrible.

He opens utg, I 3bet red 99.

Flop:J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

He checks, I bet, he raises I call.

Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

He bets, I raise?

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i think this is cool.
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: Head up vs good player

Actually I don't really love it. If this guy is good enough to have flush draws when he c/r's flop then isn't he good enough to call your turn raise with AJ/QJ?

So if he just plays a weak/tight style then you really need to figure out how low of a PP he could raise utg and c/r the flop with.

If his range is {JTs, QJs, KJ, AJ, 88-JJ} then you should probably just fold the turn since you only have 17% equity.

Funny, though, that if you add in 77 then raise looks good, as you are getting 7:2 with 26% equity meaning you are basically freerolling at getting him to fold a weaker J/TT.

If he c/r's the flop with flush draws but b/f's a good J on the turn on a drawy board getting 8:1 then I don't think he's necessarily good.

edit: actually even when you add the flush draws it comes down to whether or not he raises 77 utg and c/r's the flop with it. Interestingly, flushdraws have such high equity since many of them have top pair that they don't really change your equity much.
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:23 AM
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Is this 10 handed? If it is this is a fold pf, given that he's a tight raiser utg.

I actually hate the turn play here. What hands is he folding that you beat? I don't think he's gonna toss AJ and the K is likely to hit him if he were getting out of line w/a hand like KdQd, AdKd on the flop. I actually prefer to just toss it on this turn.
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: Head up vs good player

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. He has AJ or a flush draw every time.

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I don't think this player check raises a flopped flush draw in a heads up situation. Not a particularly good move.

He probably has AJ or tens and wants to see where you are at.

My question: would three betting the flop be total spew?
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