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Old 11-12-2007, 06:07 PM
burt m burt m is offline
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Default appearance of \"elite\" players at final table

One often hears the statement " poker must be a game of skill as you see a lot of familiar faces at the final table so often". However, consider the following: Assume a tournament has 2000 entrants. Furthermore, assume that 100 of these are considered elite players. Now, a random selection of 8 players for the final table would result in a probability of approximately 39% that there would be at least one of these elite players chosen just by chance. Thus, appearance of elite players at a final table of a large tournament appears to confirm the laws of probability as much as the verification of the "skill" level in poker.
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:10 PM
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:10 PM
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burt,

Why do you think the same five guys make it to the final table of the World Series of Poker every single year? What are they, the luckiest guys in Las Vegas?
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:10 PM
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:11 PM
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Yeah - a pro/elite at the FT, OK, but not when you see the same person over and over, which is what they're saying. Those familiar faces became familiar because they've been at the FT before, and before that, etc. etc.
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:15 PM
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I don't like Hellmuth, but he's got a ton of bracelets in HE and dozens of cashes. He may play a lot of them, but there is a reason why he's always there and it's not just mathematical probability.
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: appearance of \"elite\" players at final table

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I don't like Hellmuth, but he's got a ton of bracelets in HE and dozens of cashes. He may play a lot of them, but there is a reason why he's always there and it's not just mathematical probability.

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I have it under good authority that Hellmuth pays off the dealers to stack the deck in his favor. U heard it here first.
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: appearance of \"elite\" players at final table

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burt,

Why do you think the same five guys make it to the final table of the World Series of Poker every single year? What are they, the luckiest guys in Las Vegas?

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please forgive him, he was just thinking about Vegas and the [censored] Mirage
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:23 PM
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Yeah - a pro/elite at the FT, OK, but not when you see the same person over and over, which is what they're saying. Those familiar faces became familiar because they've been at the FT before, and before that, etc. etc.

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Aren't you a scammer Justin Smith?
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: appearance of \"elite\" players at final table

because for a while, the tournament was 15 players. The odds that five of them make it to the final table are pretty good.

-Jason
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