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Old 11-29-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Overpair Multiway Pot (Ugly Turn)

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 280982338 *****
NL $0.10/$0.20 Texas Hold'em - Thursday, November 29, 15:01:15 GMT 2007
Table Sodium 05 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: niklasweste ( $27.41 )
Seat 2: TOT4LK4OS ( $8.32 )
Seat 3: MrW ( $18.86 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $20 )
Seat 5: DaniKxarro ( $19.35 )
Seat 6: harchibald3 ( $27.12 )
TOT4LK4OS posts small blind [ $0.10 ]
MrW posts big blind [ $0.20 ]

Holecards:
Dealt to Hero [ Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Hero raises to [ $0.70 ]
CALL DaniKxarro, $0.70
CALL harchibald3, $0.70
niklasweste folds
TOT4LK4OS folds
CALL MrW, $0.50

Flop: $2.90
[ 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
MrW checks
BET Hero , $2.40
CALL DaniKxarro, $2.40
CALL harchibald3, $2.40
CALL MrW, $2.40

Turn: $12.50
[ 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
MrW checks
Hero checks
DaniKxarro checks
BET harchibald3, $10
MrW folds

HERO???
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Overpair Multiway Pot (Ugly Turn)

Is that an ugly turn? Am I missing something?

I bet 10. Lots of draws and plenty of value out there.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Overpair Multiway Pot (Ugly Turn)

54 and 89 now have a straight.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Overpair Multiway Pot (Ugly Turn)

He is betting because you checked, you are underrepping your hand. I Lead the turn again, if you get raised you can fold.
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Overpair Multiway Pot (Ugly Turn)

So you lead into 3 players again.

How much do you lead for and what do you do if re-raised (If I lead for $10, I would have $7 left and would be getting great odds to call).

Can I ask what possible hands ranges you put my opponents on after the flop.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:14 PM
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Heart draw, 10/J-A, A6, 99, possibly 54...who knows, but I'm not seeing anyone acting like they have trips yet, and if anybody is so sucktacular that they flopped 2 pair, I'll get the money back soon anyway.


I can't give free cards and I can't check fold with an overpair. I have to lead. If I'm raised I grimace and wish I had reads. But if it goes all in, I do to, hitting reload on chips as I call.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: Overpair Multiway Pot (Ugly Turn)

I understand that you don't what to give free cards, but they must know I have a big hand here after the flop. I'm not betting that flop with worse than AT, and with me been UTG its more likely I have an overpair.

I would bet the turn as you would if I was OTB (last to act) and it was checked to me, but I'm UTG with 2 more players to act who both called a strong flop bet.

I think checking controls the pot size and gives me more information about there hands with out getting me committed.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: Overpair Multiway Pot (Ugly Turn)

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Heart draw, 10/J-A, A6, 99, possibly 54...who knows

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Just ran this through Pokerstove and giving my three opponents this range, I have 25% equity.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:35 PM
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keep betting. so many hands have missed and so many crap one pairs will come along.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:38 PM
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Does anyone think checking to gain information was a good idea?, lol.

And what do you do once I check and he bets $10?
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