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Old 11-24-2007, 01:53 AM
hartwith hartwith is offline
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Default Early hand Stars $320 vs Bill Ivey

Ok so this is the 1st time I've started an HSMTT thread before, but I'd just like to run this hand by you and ask for advice as to how I played it.


PokerStars Game #13387960882: Tournament #67350658, $300+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/11/21 - 21:37:51 (ET)
Table '67350658 25' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: THETORNADO33 (920 in chips)
Seat 2: hartwith (4865 in chips)
Seat 3: Bill Ivey (3295 in chips)
Seat 4: "GodWeTrust" (2320 in chips)
Seat 5: 3boris (1875 in chips)
Seat 6: HpNOtiC (4540 in chips)
Seat 7: HaChaCha (2325 in chips)
Seat 8: TenthPlanet (3905 in chips)
Seat 9: lock (2895 in chips)
HaChaCha: posts small blind 15
TenthPlanet: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hartwith [Kd Ks]
lock: folds
THETORNADO33: folds
hartwith: raises 75 to 105
Bill Ivey: calls 105
"GodWeTrust": folds
3boris: folds
HpNOtiC: folds
HaChaCha: folds
TenthPlanet: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 7h 9h]
hartwith: checks
Bill Ivey: bets 190
hartwith: calls 190
*** TURN *** [8d 7h 9h] [3c]
hartwith: checks
3boris is sitting out
Bill Ivey: bets 425
hartwith: calls 425
*** RIVER *** [8d 7h 9h 3c] [3h]
hartwith: checks
Bill Ivey: bets 835
3boris is connected
3boris has returned
hartwith: folds
Bill Ivey collected 1485 from pot
Bill Ivey: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1485 | Rake 0
Board [8d 7h 9h 3c 3h]
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:15 AM
akcbr954 akcbr954 is offline
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Default Re: Early hand Stars $320 vs Bill Ivey

almost the worst i ever saw a hand played. what did u think he had? THIS MUST BE A LEVEL!!
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Early hand Stars $320 vs Bill Ivey

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almost the worst i ever saw a hand played. what did u think he had? THIS MUST BE A LEVEL!!

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remind me not to ask for ADVICE again if this is going to be the standard response.
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: Early hand Stars $320 vs Bill Ivey

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almost the worst i ever saw a hand played. what did u think he had? THIS MUST BE A LEVEL!!

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you are an idiot
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: Early hand Stars $320 vs Bill Ivey

who is bill ivey?
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: Early hand Stars $320 vs Bill Ivey

I'd bet the flop almost every time although I can see that getting raised on this flop would blow. I think as played folding the river is fine.
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:12 AM
TheNewf TheNewf is offline
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Default Re: Early hand Stars $320 vs Bill Ivey

I think you really should bet the flop even though getting raised sucks. As played I don't know, I can see him value-betting QQ or JJ here I kind of want to call but folding may be best.
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: Early hand Stars $320 vs Bill Ivey

i think you played all streets very well.
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: Early hand Stars $320 vs Bill Ivey

I'm a SSMTT guy but was looking around up here and just popped in and saw your post. I'm not sure the ebb and flow of the higher stakes MTTs roll, but I'm confused as to why you played your hand so weakly.

IMO:
pf - perfect. i like making it >3xbb
flop - check is ok if you plan on coming over the top, otherwise put a bet out there, somewhat close to the size of the pot. if you get raised, then you have to go with your gut, but the more fearful you are, the more likely your opponent is to put you on a weak hand. once that happens, the chips will start flying, making decisions even harder.
turn - i strongly dislike the C/C on back-to-back streets. if you're going to be playing this hand at all then i think you need to be in the driver's seat. if you really are fearful of the board texture and think you may be behind, save your chippies.
river - as played, this is the only street where i think that a C/C could be effectively implemented. you don't want to be and get raised, esp at this point being as how your hand cannot improve, but I think once you've gone that far, you cannot fold.

(again, if what i'm saying seems uberly immature for these stakes, it's because i don't play them, just putting in my $.02)
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:41 AM
GreatKerblini GreatKerblini is offline
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Default Re: Early hand Stars $320 vs Bill Ivey

you need to bet this flop for INFORMATION....u cant take the c/c line the entire line..you have absolutely no idea where u are at and ur playing the guessing game. If you get popped on the flop, then fold and move on...unless u got reads
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