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Old 10-10-2007, 01:01 PM
0524432 0524432 is offline
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Default 50nl flopped 2nd nuts OOP

Villain is 59/30/3.2 over only 75 hands. No other reads other than the obv, he plays a lot of hands, and reasonably aggro when he does.


Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $59.45
CO: $62.05
BTN: $98.95
Hero (SB): $69.85
BB: $58.70
UTG: $82.95

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.50</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.25, BB folds

Flop: ($3.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($3.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $2</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.95</font>, CO calls $4.95

River: ($17.40) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14.25</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $32.50</font>, Hero ???

Any arguments for a fold here?
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:24 PM
Jouster777 Jouster777 is offline
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Default Re: 50nl flopped 2nd nuts OOP

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Any arguments for a fold here?

[/ QUOTE ] Never...though it would be amusing if you tell us villain shows QJ here.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: 50nl flopped 2nd nuts OOP

I call this against ANY opponent. Against a fish its an even easier call.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: 50nl flopped 2nd nuts OOP

Any arguments for a PUSH here!? I dont see how else I would play this [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: 50nl flopped 2nd nuts OOP

since he didn't bet the flop, we can probably rule out any hand with a 9/8/5 (K9, etc) and big PPs (TT-KK will bet for protection; AA will bet because it just does). JT will probably c-bet.

Hands that check: maybe sets, 76. I don't see QJ/J7 checking the flop and betting the turn: that would be a weird line.

This is probably KT or maybe K5, who knows at these stakes. You're likely ahead way more often than pot odds dictate. Only concern though is that your line is strong (c/r turn, lead river), yet he raises the river anyway.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: 50nl flopped 2nd nuts OOP

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since he didn't bet the flop, we can probably rule out any hand with a 9/8/5 (K9, etc) and big PPs (TT-KK will bet for protection; AA will bet because it just does). JT will probably c-bet.

Hands that check: maybe sets, 76. I don't see QJ/J7 checking the flop and betting the turn: that would be a weird line.

This is probably KT or maybe K5, who knows at these stakes. You're likely ahead way more often than pot odds dictate. Only concern though is that your line is strong (c/r turn, lead river), yet he raises the river anyway.

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Esp QJ or J7 checking flop, and bet/calling a c/r on the turn
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: 50nl flopped 2nd nuts OOP

I have an argument for leading the turn

and I shove river.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: 50nl flopped 2nd nuts OOP

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Any arguments for a PUSH here!? I dont see how else I would play this [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I did basically take my entire time bank to consider shoving. I dont think 67 bets turn and just CALLS a c/r from the sb. So I think he could easily have a hand like KT or a Tx that makes 2 pair. However, even considering the stack sizes, the min raise into my very strong line (c/r turn and large vbet river) was concerning enough to me to just call.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: 50nl flopped 2nd nuts OOP

I am shoving the river as well.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: 50nl flopped 2nd nuts OOP

this is 67, 55/88, KT, or AA. i'm 100% certain.
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