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Old 11-26-2007, 07:46 PM
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lead flop or cr it.
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:36 PM
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i say easy call river.

what do you think he was betting with gutshot?

your so good here.

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what would he call turn with that he would turn into a bluff on the river?
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:48 PM
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i say easy call river.

what do you think he was betting with gutshot?

your so good here.

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what would he call turn with that he would turn into a bluff on the river?

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its more that he is going to be value betting a worse hand here a decent amt of the time. our hand beats two pairs, so i think we have to call.
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:53 PM
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Why do we check river? Is TT/T9/T8 a huge part of his range?
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Old 11-26-2007, 10:59 PM
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i say easy call river.

what do you think he was betting with gutshot?

your so good here.

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what would he call turn with that he would turn into a bluff on the river?

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its more that he is going to be value betting a worse hand here a decent amt of the time. our hand beats two pairs, so i think we have to call.

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i think he calls 2pr more than he bets it tho and maybe even calls other stuff id just bet
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:07 PM
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i say easy call river.

what do you think he was betting with gutshot?

your so good here.

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what would he call turn with that he would turn into a bluff on the river?

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its more that he is going to be value betting a worse hand here a decent amt of the time. our hand beats two pairs, so i think we have to call.

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it seems like a pretty thin parlay to me. i mean, he has to have one of only a few "made" hands that we beat -- 78, 89, 79, 9J -- and has decide to value-bet it; or he has some kind of float or spades or one-pair hands and has decided to bluff. I have a hard time seeing how those add up to enough situations to call, especially considering every hand that beats us will value bet pretty much every single time.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:59 AM
Jason Strasser (strassa2) Jason Strasser (strassa2) is offline
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i'd probably just shove the river and hope he has two pair?

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joke?
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:17 AM
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i'd probably just shove the river and hope he has two pair?

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joke?

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no
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:47 AM
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i say easy call river.

what do you think he was betting with gutshot?

your so good here.

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Uhh, 8-10 maybe...
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:10 AM
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Against the villain described, I would bet $1500 on the river and fold to a raise. I think his range for betting the river is weighted somewhat heavily towards JT, T8, 99 and 77 in that order.

I think you only need to check the river if the player is tougher than the one described. He will rarely bluff shove over a 35% bet, and when he does, it should be a very easy fold. This way you also get value out of his 2 pairs more effectively than shoving or checking.
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