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Old 10-01-2007, 09:33 PM
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Default QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($45.05)
<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($53.75)</font>
MP1 ($86.15)
MP2 ($99)
MP3 ($91.60)
CO ($23.85)
Button ($99.40)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($182.35)</font>
BB ($42.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $9.

Flop: ($27) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $40.75</font>, Hero calls $25.75.

Standard? Fold to flop raise? Check flop?
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)

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Old 10-01-2007, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)

Against unknown villain. I fold and kick a cat.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)

Bet $20 (half his stack) on flop. After that I might find a call since it's only $20 more, but I'm pretty sure that's spew. He probably should have shoved AK pf or folded, so you might be good...
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)

oh yuck, this looked like a totally easy fold till I saw the stack sizes.

Geez, I dont know. I dont know if its possible to bet an amount that you can get away from.

Might be best to just put him all in on the flop (or come close with a roughly pot size bet).

I have nothing useful to say but ive already typed all this out so im posting it.
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:23 AM
ship_it_trebek ship_it_trebek is offline
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Default Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)

Putting him all in on the flop seems kinda spewy since villain probably isn't looking us up with anything we beat.
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Old 10-02-2007, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)

I fold to this flop raise cause we beat close to nothing that he raises with UTG and calls you good sized reraise with. That's AK very very often.
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:02 AM
NoRakeBackHere NoRakeBackHere is offline
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Default Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)

Fold
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)

Is it really that clear of a fold? Surely he has smaller pairs or air sometimes right? Basically everyone puts him on AK here?
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: QQ on K high flop, 3bet pot, line check (NL100)

Look at the hand from his point of view: You showed extreme strength in this hand. Your re-raise PF indicates a big hand (big pair or AK) and you back it up with a decent flop bet. Yet he is pushing into you on the flop. He has to put you on a big hand and has no reason to think that you are going to fold.

In light of this, how likely is it that he is pushing with a mid-pair or JJ/QQ? I think it's possible but very unlikely. But if there's a 25% chance that he's making a move with a mid-pair, then your call is correct.
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