Top pair against weird line

[jfish]

i think you suck

[lapoker17]

there is definitely a type of player who never has a hand here.

[FGators]

When a guy raises into a better and a caller, top pair, solid kicker is like never good, especially with the flush draw getting there.

[aislephive]

I agree with Luego about folding the turn. People do check behind flush draws on the flop on occasion, 444 is also very possible. I think it's very unlikely he is raising the turn with air, maaaaaaybe like AdQx or something but even that is pretty unlikely.

Definitely fold river as played though, I think he has a flush like every time.

[samh133]

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i think the turn call is good and i would c/f river.

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If we are calling the turn why are we folding the river?

[lapoker17]

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If we are calling the turn why are we folding the river?

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ty sam, word.

[Evigt_Drabbad]

i think u need to call the river

[jfish]

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If we are calling the turn why are we folding the river?

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ty sam, word.

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because i think his bluffing frequency (esp for a 4/5 psb on river compared to the tiny turn raise) goes down dramatically. do you disagree?

[lapoker17]

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because i think his bluffing frequency (esp for a 4/5 psb on river compared to the tiny turn raise) goes down dramatically. do you disagree?

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yes - if he has enough balls to do this w Ad (which seems reasonably likely given the way people play) - doesnt he have enough balls to fire all rivers? if he is semibluffing tun he is not shutting down. this is 44 or nada and i dont think 44 raises here some huge % of the time - and fd bets flop way more.

[jfish]

yea i def think this is 44. i think his turn range is {44, semibluffs} and his river range is {44, bluffs} and i think any reasonable opponent would expect a call like always here (meaning theyre not bluffing often).