Combo draw, many opponents

Khaos4k · #1 08-20-2007, 08:05 PM

Some very awkward stack sizes here. Should I be pushing somewhere? I called flop because of the minraise, giving me amazing odds to hit on the turn.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($19.95)
BB ($13.85)
Hero ($24.40)
MP ($40.55)
CO ($29.40)
Button ($4)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $3, CO raises to $5.25, Button calls $3 (All-In), BB calls $4.50, Hero calls $2.25.

Turn: ($22.85) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $23.15 (All-In), BB calls $7.60 (All-In), Hero folds.

Note: This is effectively $18 for me to call, not $23.

River: ($38.05) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $38.05

shark_fishin · #2 08-20-2007, 08:12 PM

i think this lines ok vs this many opponents, pretty tough spot though, would like to hear what others think

YanP · #3 08-20-2007, 08:29 PM

the call of reraise on the flop is pretty good coz you're hoping to get callers to build a pot
on the turn i'd like to see a bet, which would price you in.
you've got 38%ish equity against a range of top pairs, sets and nut flush draws.
a bet on the turn would actually commit you, you'd prob have to push which would give you some fold equity.you'll be getting 18/40, which is about 31% of the pot which is +EV.
add in some FE and pushing the turn seems like a good play imo
tought spot that i end up in a lot and would also like to see what others think here

crovax4444 · #4 08-20-2007, 08:33 PM

Raise again on the flop. I feel that with 2 other players and some dead money, you have an equity advantage, so get it in.

Calling is ok for the reasons you stated, and it's a good turn fold.

Crovax

ama0330 · #5 08-20-2007, 10:10 PM

Seems pretty much okay but I would raise more on the flop the first time.

Buffalo Wings · #6 08-20-2007, 10:45 PM

Is it too weak to just call the flop bet and hope to hit something on the turn?

Khaos4k · #7 08-21-2007, 08:23 AM

Here are the results, as they are hilarious.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($19.95)
BB ($13.85)
Hero ($24.40)
MP ($40.55)
CO ($29.40)
Button ($4)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($4.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $3, CO raises to $5.25, Button calls $3 (All-In), BB calls $4.50, Hero calls $2.25.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.610% 45.61% 00.00% 374 0.00 { 9h8h }Me
Hand 1: 25.610% 25.61% 00.00% 210 0.00 { Qs7h }BB
Hand 2: 16.585% 16.59% 00.00% 136 0.00 { 6c3c }CO
Hand 3: 12.195% 12.20% 00.00% 100 0.00 { AdJd }BTN

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Turn: ($22.85) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $23.15 (All-In), BB calls $7.60 (All-In), Hero folds.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 35.000% 35.00% 00.00% 14 0.00 { 9h8h }Me
Hand 1: 27.500% 27.50% 00.00% 11 0.00 { Qs7h }BB
Hand 2: 32.500% 32.50% 00.00% 13 0.00 { 6c3c }CO
Hand 3: 05.000% 05.00% 00.00% 2 0.00 { AdJd }BTN

River: ($38.05) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $38.05

BB has 7h Qs (one pair, queens).
CO has 3c 6c (one pair, sixes).
Button has Ad Jd (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: BB wins $38.05. CO wins $15.55.

I had the highest equity the entire time.

mattnxtc · #8 08-21-2007, 08:28 AM

Dont run programs like pokerstove after you already know their cards...run it against what you think their range is.

Khaos4k · #9 08-21-2007, 09:22 AM

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Dont run programs like pokerstove after you already know their cards...run it against what you think their range is.

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Oh I know. I just think its hilarious that I had the best equity vs 4 opponents with nine high. If I was assigning real ranges it definitely wouldn't include 63s.

Rednas · #10 08-21-2007, 09:28 AM

I'm all in on the flop after all this action.