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Old 02-12-2007, 02:56 AM
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Default Hands from $24+2 mtts on Tilt and $530/350KGuar

couldn't get HH's from tilt, hopefully these are easier to read, relevent stacks listed


1. Full Tilt $24+2 Pot Limit Holdem, Big Blind is t400

UTG (t11476)
UTG+2 (t6755)
MP (t9915)
Hero(BB) (t5300)

Preflop: Hero is in Big Blind with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="red"> UTG raises to t800,</font><font color="#666666">1 folds, </font> <font color="red">UTG+2 calls t800, </font> <font color="#666666"> 1 folds, </font> <font color="red">MP calls t800, </font> <font color="#666666"> 3 folds, </font> Hero (BB) calls t800.<font color="red"> </font>

Flop: (t3400) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

<font color="red">Hero bets t3400, UTG calls t3400, UTG+2 raises to t5900, hero calls, UTG calls </font>

UTG is only player who has shown any game, he has opened a few pots for min bets and taken them down w c-bets, UTG+2 and MP have called the opening bet several times preflop but not shown anything down

2. Full Tilt $3+ Rebuys No Limit Holdem, Big Blind is t3000

17 players remain, 28 paid, Hero is on the 8 handed table.

Button has been active but not aggressive, he won his stack when he open pushed a K x x flop for t100k into a t20000 pot
and was called by the PF raiser for 80K with K9 at about 25 players

SB (t23495)
BB (t17890)
Hero(CO) (t61549)
Button (t173,590)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">4 folds,</font><font color="red">Hero raises t10000, Button calls T10000,</font> <font color="#666666">2 folds. </font>

Flop: (t24950) A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero checks, Button bets t10000, Hero raises all in.... </font>

3. Live hand: $500+30 $350,000G No Limit Hold Em,

12 players remain, 1st place is $100,000, 12th $2600 stacks are approx., 6 handed tables, very low M tourney Hero is 2nd CL in tourney. Table is very tight, I've only played one pot where I reraised a button raise preflop, and took it down.

blinds are t10,000-t20,000

BB (t85,000)
SB (t105,000)
Button (t95,000)
MP (t120,000)
UTG+1 (t65,000)
Hero(UTG)(t185,000)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="red">Hero raises t60,000, MP raises t120,000, <font color="#666666"> 4 folds </font> Hero calls </font>

MP was on my starting table at 700 players, the only hand he showed down was a weakly played AK where he check called PF raisers flop/turn/river bets down unimproved, and beat PFR's AQ with a King kicker. Other than that very tight.

thoughts, results to follow
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Old 02-12-2007, 04:28 AM
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hand 1 is 9 handed
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Old 02-12-2007, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: Hands from $24+2 mtts on Tilt and $530/350KGuar

1 bet less on the flop. you have to call the push b/c you're committed.

2 standard

3 with an M of 6, you're in push / fold mode. as played, I don't think you can rely on your read from the start of the tournament when you're now short handed at the final two tables. i would call b/c of pot odds - (180 in the pot, 60 to call = 3-1).
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Old 02-12-2007, 04:50 AM
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1 bet less on the flop. you have to call the push b/c you're committed.

<font color="blue"> T think I had t4500 left - I think I'm committed unless I bet t1000-t1800 right? </font>

2 standard

3 with an M of 6, you're in push / fold mode. as played, I don't think you can rely on your read from the start of the tournament when you're now short handed at the final two tables. i would call b/c of pot odds - (180 in the pot, 60 to call = 3-1).

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this was areally wierd tournament at a CA Indian Reserv. Casino, I played a stack of 1M for hours, anyways this was the first time have a stack where it wasn't completely obvious to just push all in.
2nd question: Am I supposed to make standard M based plays like open pushing KQ UTG, when I am 2nd in chips in a major event like that with 12 players left?
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Old 02-12-2007, 05:23 AM
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Hand 1, bet t2400 on the flop and fold to a raise.

Hand 2 is not standard to me, it's bad. Raise less preflop, t9000. C-Bet and take it down. You are check-raising here as a bluff, and given villain's stack he might buy the belief that a big-stack's chips are less valuable and make a looser call (i.e - w/ AQ or AJ).

Hand 3 I fold preflop, but if I'm going to play I shove. I would shove if my M was a little lower but I wait for a better spot with a better hand. KQs is pretty, but it sucks when called after pushing UTG.
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Old 02-12-2007, 05:28 AM
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Hand 1, bet t2400 on the flop and fold to a raise.

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he had 4500 left, he can't do that

either shove or check fold, this flop was 4 handed, i thnk ur beyond most of the time as well.
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Old 02-12-2007, 05:37 AM
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Hand 2 is not standard to me, it's bad. Raise less preflop, t9000. C-Bet and take it down. You are check-raising here as a bluff, and given villain's stack he might buy the belief that a big-stack's chips are less valuable and make a looser call (i.e - w/ AQ or AJ).

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AA, not sure if you read my notes on button or maybe misunderstood them; i.e. button is horrible and luckboxed his huge stack by open pushing K9 from BB for 80,000K on a K xx flop into a t20,000K pot and getting called by other big stack who had QQ, I checked because I thought I would make more off of the hand that way than if I just c-bet it and he folds whatever rags he has

Also, am I really bluffing? I don't feel its a bluff I have top pair decent kicker + gutshot
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Old 02-12-2007, 05:45 AM
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just read my note in OP, sorry wasn't clear button was
a goob, the fields are fairly low quality on the tilt micro rebuys
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Old 02-12-2007, 05:56 AM
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Hand 1, bet t2400 on the flop and fold to a raise.

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he had 4500 left, he can't do that

either shove or check fold, this flop was 4 handed, i thnk ur beyond most of the time as well.

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not sure if you guys caught that it was a minraise, not a 3 or 4x raise - my thought that it was that UTG would do this w/ hands like ATs/AJ/AQ/AK, and KTs/KJs/KQs especially, as well as any *small* pair, *but not* specifically the hands that have me crushed like TT/JJ/QQ+ because I think a big stack plays these hands for at least a 3x/4x BB raise, I think that the only hand that I have to worry about is exactly 99 as its the only hand that really 'fits' the action

the callers were as described weak and likely on the same type of hands, when the flop comes 5 high against this weak action I figured try for a stop n go - even though I had more than the pot size
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Old 02-12-2007, 08:30 PM
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*RESULTS* (not sure how this forum works, was chastised by some poster for 'bumping' my own thread, when I was actually replying to it. Anyways this is not a bump - thread coppers

Hand #1
1. Full Tilt $24+2 Pot Limit Holdem, Big Blind is t400

UTG (t11476)
UTG+2 (t6755)
MP (t9915)
Hero(BB) (t5300)


Preflop: Hero is in Big Blind with 8 8 .
UTG raises to t800,1 folds, UTG+2 calls t800, 1 folds, MP calls t800, 3 folds, Hero (BB) calls t800.

Flop: (t3400) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] , 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] , 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bets t3400, UTG calls t3400, UTG+2 raises to t5900, hero calls, UTG calls

UTG showed A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], UTG+2 showed 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], River: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

2. Full Tilt $3+ Rebuys No Limit Holdem, Big Blind is t3000

17 players remain, 28 paid, Hero is on the 8 handed table.

SB (t23495)
BB (t17890)
Hero(CO) (t61549)
Button (t173,590)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds,Hero raises t10000, Button calls T10000, 2 folds.

Flop: (t24950) A K J
Hero checks, Button bets t10000, Hero raises all in....

Button showns down A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Turn: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], River: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hand is split.

Hand 3

blinds are t10,000-t20,000

BB (t85,000)
SB (t105,000)
Button (t95,000)
MP (t120,000)
UTG+1 (t65,000)
Hero(UTG)(t185,000)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] .
Hero raises t60,000, MP raises t120,000, 4 folds Hero calls

MP shows K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]., Hero does not draw out
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