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Old 10-13-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: 25NL I go insane and attempt a triple barrel bluff

question: Depending on villain, this hand is preflop a fold or raise thing for me

Is this bad? I figure if im ahead of his A-range I can raise and see to get more information (flatcall and with action on A high board extreme caution) and i hate flatcalling this even in position, I in fact only do this with pairs or sc
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: 25NL I go insane and attempt a triple barrel bluff

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question: Depending on villain, this hand is preflop a fold or raise thing for me

Is this bad? I figure if im ahead of his A-range I can raise and see to get more information (flatcall and with action on A high board extreme caution) and i hate flatcalling this even in position, I in fact only do this with pairs or sc

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In position this is a raise from me every time. OOP I either call or raise. Villain can have a lot of hands that are worse than AQ that he open raises pre-flop.

I find that playing AQo OOP is difficult for me, especially in big pots, so that's why I don't always raise.

Also, you should reconsider flatcalling with SCs out of position. I stopped doing this because after some PT analysis it looked like a significant leak to me. You simply don't have the implied odds for it. The odds of hitting a straight or flush on the flop are pretty low. If you hit a draw you're likely getting charged for it on the flop.

Anyways, I'll stop moving my own thread off topic.
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Old 10-13-2007, 04:15 PM
Ender Wiggin Ender Wiggin is offline
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Default Re: 25NL I go insane and attempt a triple barrel bluff

wtffff OP I just saw your preflop and flop play

that is really bad

3bet or fold preflop, check/evaluate the flop.
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Old 10-13-2007, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: 25NL I go insane and attempt a triple barrel bluff

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Even the donkiest donks in donkonia don't do that.

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Well, I don't know where you play, but consider yourself blessed. In the micros at Stars there are donks galore! Yes - donks that will call you down with Ace or King high!

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If you were playing this hand and were thinking about him having AK you would be wasting time you could be using thinking about the relevant issues.

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I'm sorry, but I can't agree with this. On a fundamental level. I happen to believe that no time spent thinking is time wasted. Thank you for sharing your views though.

PS: My AKs scenario was more in reference to the flop. Many donks (actually, some good players too - for various devious reasons) would call Hero's flop bet with suited overcards - even if there was a backdoor flush draw.

EDIT: Yeah, I was kidding about "consider yourself blessed"... I know donks are good. Don't anyone dare respond to that. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: 25NL I go insane and attempt a triple barrel bluff

You are beating a flush draw

If you want him to fold an overpair you will have to bet more than that on the river

Also bear in mind that while your flop donk may look very strong to a good TAGish player, not everyone will think like that
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: 25NL I go insane and attempt a triple barrel bluff

don't bluff donks. You're never getting an overpair to fold here
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: 25NL I go insane and attempt a triple barrel bluff

why the hell would you flatcall pre with AQ... then donkbet 3barrel? WTF?

what part of your range do you actually frontbet on this flop?

If you frontbet overly it makes you very very easy to play against
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: 25NL I go insane and attempt a triple barrel bluff

AQ oop against a strong hand with a terrible line is not a spot for taking the pot away from this guy. What are you repping and what do you think he's folding ?
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Old 10-13-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: 25NL I go insane and attempt a triple barrel bluff

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why the hell would you flatcall pre with AQ... then donkbet 3barrel? WTF?

what part of your range do you actually frontbet on this flop?

If you frontbet overly it makes you very very easy to play against

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What does frontbet mean?
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