Science Education in America: Why I'm Homeschooling My Kid in Science

[Nielsio]

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If you try to retain the money being sent to the public schools and instead tried to use it for private schools or homeschooling, what happens?

"Monopoly" doesn't necessarily mean only one provider. It means a grant of special privelege by government.

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retain the money? lol. you try to stop the gov from thefting you and you'll wind up dead, no matter what the reason you have for doing it.

but as far as education, it seems to me the best education model is the apprentice model. what I mean by that is that if you look at elite say nobel prize winners, a way lot of them had mentors they worked with who were themselves nobel prize winners. I think I read an article by a nobel prize winner who said somtheing like that.

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So you're an education anarchist?

[PLOlover]

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The question was: is it a monopoly, and the answer is yes. Do you acknowledge?


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I don't know why you single out schools



What do you mean? We're anarchists. Are you?

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well your argument of monopoly rests on your having to pay taxes to suport the schools. but what about people like me who don't pay taxes other than those that are impossible to not pay (sales tax, for example).

WHO'S THE ANARCHIST NOW!? (ode to joey, could be better but I don't feel like thinking hard and making it funny)

[Nielsio]

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The question was: is it a monopoly, and the answer is yes. Do you acknowledge?


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I don't know why you single out schools



What do you mean? We're anarchists. Are you?

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well your argument of monopoly rests on your having to pay taxes to suport the schools. but what about people like me who don't pay taxes other than those that are impossible to not pay (sales tax, for example).

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Well, what about them? Like you said, you're paying whether you like it or not. The state is not a voluntary organization. They spend money and fork the costs over to the citizens in whichever way they want. Sales tax, income tax, inflation tax, seizing property, slave labour, the list goes on. Whenever the state spends a dollar, the cost is somehow going to be paid by the citizen (unless the state collapses ofcourse. HELLO USSR).

If you, by some miracle, live within the state territory and end up not paying for the schools, then that would be strange but not unpossible. However, this situation would still the best application for the concept of 'monopoly'. No other situations are fit better to it (and certainly no market situation).




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WHO'S THE ANARCHIST NOW!? (ode to joey, could be better but I don't feel like thinking hard and making it funny)

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I am. Are you?

[PLOlover]

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If you, by some miracle, live within the state territory and end up not paying for the schools, then that would be strange but not unpossible. However, this situation would still the best application for the concept of 'monopoly'. No other situations are fit better to it (and certainly no market situation).

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I guess you're right, the gov is a monopoly, and p;ublic schools are part of government, so I guess they are part of a monopoly, but the diff is you don't have to participate in pub schools, but you do have to participate in government to some extent.

[Nielsio]

So are you a voluntaryist yet?

[PLOlover]

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So are you a voluntaryist yet?

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criminal is probably the best label; I mean I can think.

[Nielsio]

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So are you a voluntaryist yet?

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criminal is probably the best label; I mean I can think.

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What?

If you are purposely avoiding the question please state so.

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Here it is again:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/19/op...mp;oref=slogin

This is a forum for evidence and rational discussion...not rants about the government.

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Atleast you tried.

[Metric]

Absolutely right. The real tragedy is this:
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All of you people who get so bent out of shape about some school district somewhere not teaching evolution or wanting to teach ID are missing the forest for a pine needle.

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Apparently there are a huge number of people just barely able to grasp the trivial concept that "ID really isn't science," but completely unable to recognize that it is the structure of the system itself that is ultimately destructive to genuine understanding and creativity.

[Rduke55]

Also, wasn't the author of the linked article angry about his kid's grade, not the amount of science he learned? As other people said, why would you expect this to be different in a private school?

And I think Phil is bringing up good points worthy of discussion and I don't know why you are doing what you are doing. You are just brushing his points aside without any debate - some sort of reverse-trolling.