what do you do here?

bennyhana · #1 05-17-2007, 04:41 PM

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button calls, Hero raises, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

nomadtla · #2 05-17-2007, 04:43 PM

cry.

seriously we're heads up and this comes down to reads. If he's pretty straight forward then I like b/f. If he's a goon I like to c/c it down.

Buzz-cp · #3 05-17-2007, 04:46 PM

easy bet/fold, I think even without reads.

but let me ask you why you called the flop raise? Are you trying to show your hand down? What was your plan when you called flop?

Buzz

tyler_cracker · #4 05-17-2007, 05:06 PM

donk/fold looks ok, i guess.

once that card falls, i don't mind trying to get to showdown unless the board gets scarier.

buzz: hero calls the flop raise with a strong second pair, a pretty good BDFD, and a BDSD.

bennyhana · #5 05-17-2007, 10:06 PM

OK, I didn't mean for this to turn into this buuuut...

tyler,
dead on on my flop reasoning. I forgot to mention this is a 6 max hand.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button calls, Hero raises, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: (5 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

MacGuyV · #6 05-17-2007, 10:12 PM

Since everyone references dyson's off tempo post incorrectly I'll say it here: "I don't play like you" - just c/c down.

Shillx · #7 05-17-2007, 10:16 PM

FWIW his turn check is beyond bad no matter what he holds. After he does I would certainly check the river and hope he bluffs.

MacGuyV · #8 05-17-2007, 10:18 PM

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FWIW his turn check is beyond bad no matter what he holds After he does I would certainly check the river and hope he bluffs.

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Yah he played everything bad - it's tempting to say check the river vs. a spade draw but enough idiots play T's, PP's, & Ace highs like this that it's probably a bet.

bennyhana · #9 05-17-2007, 10:25 PM

yeah, when he checked the turn K, the river IMO is a value bet any card not an A or [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

I was just wondering how that second K on the turn changes your thoughts on his hand. I'd seen this guy be aggressive, but hadn't seen his cards yet, this was early in my short session. After about 12 more hands, I realized how this guy was playing. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] He was that bad.

callmedonnie · #10 05-18-2007, 01:18 PM

I don't like anything involving folding. I think c/c all the way down is best. If BB is bluffing you don't want to encourage him to stop.

The river is either a value bet or a check to induce a bluff spot. Without a read I would leans toward checking, just because if unknown happens to be tricky putting in two bets on the river would suck. And I'd never b/f the river after the turn.