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Old 11-13-2007, 12:36 PM
HoldEmNewby HoldEmNewby is offline
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Default My ladies aren\'t so bright....

Not much of a read on villain. I don't like checking behind on the flop; I think a bet to $20 is good. That said how do I react to a flop c/r? Call and get it in on a non heart,7, A, K turn? Seems like alot of cards to dodge.

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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BB: $150.93
Hero (UTG): $207.45
BTN: $36.10
SB: $163.48

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $14</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($29) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero????
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:38 PM
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I'd bet 25ish on the flop, push over a CR.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: My ladies aren\'t so bright....

Without reads, I would bet/fold. Really hard without reads if he check/raises you.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:39 PM
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any read will do. does he seem taggish?
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:39 PM
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"I would bet/fold."

terrible
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: My ladies aren\'t so bright....

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I'd bet 25ish on the flop, push over a CR.

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Isnt that bad, since we are semi deep?

am I the only one who doesnt think we get checkraised a lot? His hand isnt near strong enough that hes gunna risk giving a free card on this board, unless hes got QJ, and even then going for a checkraise is kinda dumb IMO. Looks like he just is scared of the flop cuz it hits alot of our PF calling range.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:47 PM
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any read will do. does he seem taggish?

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Only 37 hands, the only hand i had saw was CO (with half a stack) limping, him raising from the button, CO raising, him calling. CO pushed a Q high flop and he called. He had Tens and they held up. In the 37 hands he seems tight (not neccassarily a TAG) but that was all i had for a read.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:55 PM
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I'd bet 25ish on the flop, push over a CR.

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Isnt that bad, since we are semi deep?



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Maybe, I thought this was NL200
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:56 PM
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were not really that deep tho
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: My ladies aren\'t so bright....

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I'd bet 25ish on the flop, push over a CR.

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Isnt that bad, since we are semi deep?

am I the only one who doesnt think we get checkraised a lot? His hand isnt near strong enough that hes gunna risk giving a free card on this board, unless hes got QJ, and even then going for a checkraise is kinda dumb IMO. Looks like he just is scared of the flop cuz it hits alot of our PF calling range.

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I don't think it's bad this deep because the hands he goes for a c/r with are hands that we are currently ahead of, for the most part.

I'd just take a card off.

Betting isn't going to fold out stuff like AA or KK, even though he's scared of the flop. If you want to try to fold those hands, prepare to fire your whole stack at this pot. The only part of his range that folds to a flop bet is AK, AQ.

edit: just noticed we're 4-handed, which opens up his 3-betting range more than I was thinking. Still like checking the flop, if I bet it I'm not folding.
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