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Re: Dan Harrington. Justified stiff?
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[ QUOTE ] Not that I would tip 3% to begin with, but nothing you can do if they force you to. [/ QUOTE ] I think eventually this is where the trend is going, a lot more "mandatory 3%" tourneys. [/ QUOTE ] Right - that's is where it's going. But then the eventual winner shouldn't be called cheap when he declines to tip in addition to what was already taken ahead of time. |
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Re: Dan Harrington. Justified stiff? Taxes for the rest of us
For those of us not able to claim the status of professional gamblers, there is the issue of having to pay tax on any money which we tip. In other words, you are taxed on the full amount of the win, and the tip is a gift given with post tax dollars.
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Re: Dan Harrington. Justified stiff? Taxes for the rest of us
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Re: Dan Harrington. Justified stiff?
What does Harrington exactly say about tipping in his books?
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Re: Dan Harrington. Justified stiff?
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If you're going to reply to my posts, Gonso, at least please quote me instead of someone else. I didn't say even one of the things you have me as quoted for. Thanks. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I dunno what happened there, but I think people can figure out who said what by looking. I know some posters will use 5 posts to respond to 5 people, I'm not one of them. Any mistaken identity problems you encounter just let me know, I'll take care of it. Thanks. |
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Re: Dan Harrington. Justified stiff?
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[ QUOTE ] If you're going to reply to my posts, Gonso, at least please quote me instead of someone else. I didn't say even one of the things you have me as quoted for. Thanks. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I dunno what happened there [/ QUOTE ] No problem. I did agree with the poster about keeping the deck low and level, in that is is very important and a commonly seen flaw. I used to deal, and even worked in a supervisory capacity with poker for a while. Believe it or not, this is actually often more important than a cocktail waitress keeping her tray of drinks level (that can't feel totally comfortable and natural to her, can it ?). If a player's hole cards are flashed to another player by the carelessness of the dealer, the player may be unfairly caused to lose much more than a tray of drinks. Not flashing cards is an essential part of the casino offering fair games to all players. I know it may seem uncomfortable, but once you really get used to it, it becomes second nature to hold the deck low and level always. Bicycle riding felt uncomfortable or unnatural once, didn't it? Good luck with your dealing and hope you get a lot of tips. Thanks for reading. |
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Re: Dan Harrington. Justified stiff?
It's not the job of the player to make sure the dealer gets a fair wage, that's what the casinos are for, they make a [censored] ton money, 90% of poker players do not. If they have a problem with their wage they should unionize, I don't tip the people that built the tollway I drive on.
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Re: Dan Harrington. Justified stiff?
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[ QUOTE ] However, I also heard that he tipped each of the two security guards that walked him to his car w/ his $1.6M check $1 each. IMHO, this is ridiculously cheap and frankly offensive. I think in his position I would have tipped AT LEAST $20. I mean, seriously, why even bother tipping if you are just gonna tip $1? [/ QUOTE ] It's a check(for 1.6 million!), is somebody going to steal it and run to the nearest cashing place? They did probably 5 minutes of escorting (aka walking). [/ QUOTE ] 5 minutes max. The walk from the tourney room to the front door is 30 seconds at a decent clip and valet is right there to the left. Or he could go around the back way from the tourney and still make it in under 1 minute. He probably didn't even have them park it close so he saved himself a few more bucks. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] |
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Re: Dan Harrington. Justified stiff?
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It's not the job of the player to make sure the dealer gets a fair wage, that's what the casinos are for, they make a [censored] ton money, 90% of poker players do not. If they have a problem with their wage they should unionize, I don't tip the people that built the tollway I drive on. [/ QUOTE ] I look at it like tipping waitresses except that I think the standards for decent service (tip) should be somewhat higher. A waitress can't screw up your order too badly, usually, but a dealer can screw you up by flashing your cards or not paying attention. Dealers need to try, and kudos to the ones who do try and perform competently. Harrington tipped 3% as it was withheld from his winnings, so that is just fine, I would think. |
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Re: Dan Harrington. Justified stiff?
It's more than fine.
Something funny about this thread though. The OP said nothing about dealing or being a dealer, he was asking if Dan was a stiff for not tipping above the 3% already taken out. Then, before you knew it, a couple posters like bustedromo and selurah started up with the, "oh, look at the dealers whining about tips" bit, then you get squisssss throwing out nonsensical flames - can someone show me where the dealers in the thread are bitching about the 3%? That's a lot of money when you consider the prize, and a dealer would know that. |
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