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Old 11-22-2007, 11:50 PM
shooot@04 shooot@04 is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: How much to raise?

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Old 11-23-2007, 12:18 AM
RapidEvolution RapidEvolution is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: How much to raise?

I opted to raise to 30 here, and villain folded. My thinking here was twofold.

1) If villain has AQ, he's shoving over my river bet and all the monies are going in.

2) If villain was floating me with two overs (say AJ or maybe even AK), then my flop lead/turn check, river shove would look a lot like AQ and he might get away since there are still 150BB left, but he may think I'm bluffing enough (or am on a worse A) to call getting 2-1.

Again, I feel like I'm sucking in these spots...
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Old 11-23-2007, 12:19 AM
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:25 AM
xxrod17xx xxrod17xx is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: How much to raise?

I think you made a good bet. With both of you really deep and only about 8% of each of your stack in the pot an A probably doesnt call a shove. I actually really like your raise size because it will get raised AI by AQ maybe even a weaker two pair, it also will extract some value against some weaker hands against a showdown addict or someone who just doesn't want to lay down. I wouldn't sweat this situation here because this time he prob didn't have a hand or just made a pretty good laydown. Like trebek said, A river PSB like this is almost never a bluff...just this time it looked like it may have been.
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Old 11-23-2007, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: How much to raise?

I like your bet rather than a shove only because you are both so deep.
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:10 AM
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Default Re: 50NL: How much to raise?

With these kinds of passive villains, you have to do their betting for them and its usually best to assume they have the best possible losing hand which is probably AQ here. So, a shove seems best, I doubt you get called much less often than a bet to 30.

I also half-3/4 pot bet the turn in this hand. I think you're too quick to put villain on a Q, he is a station and is just as likely to have a mid pair or Ax and even bigtime calling stations usually give up to a second barrel unless they really have at least TP.

As you discovered it's pretty tough to get paid after you hit and you fold out a lot of A hi hands that otherwise are going to take this pot on the river.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:59 AM
The_Bowler The_Bowler is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: How much to raise?

I like your raise..
The pot would have $11.25 X 3 if U call = $33.75
By re-raising +30 you give them a chance to push back

But at that level of game, I have seen many an insta call as well...with aces and the like when they hit the river ace,
They are hoping for the card and it comes... they never see the wheel...

So either is ok...
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