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Old 04-28-2007, 07:34 AM
Madrugada Madrugada is offline
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Default AA preflop Raiser, Hero?

CO: ultra tight, reasonable
MP1: fishy callingstation, VPIP 90%

I'm sure CO raising with AA. I'll see the flop. CO c-pots flop.

Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.5
10 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.5
UTG+1: $35.25
UTG+2: $9.2
MP1: $103.7
Hero: $26.95
MP3: $45
CO: $50
Button: $49.15
SB: $44.25
BB: $30

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $3.75</font>, 4 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($16.25, 4 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $16.25</font>, MP1 calls, Hero?
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Old 04-28-2007, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: AA preflop Raiser, Hero?

You've got 8 outs, an outside straight draw. An easy fold to a pot bet.
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Old 04-28-2007, 09:29 AM
Cadence Lauren Cadence Lauren is offline
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Default Re: AA preflop Raiser, Hero?

This is an easy fold made moreso by the fact that you are shortstacked. You have 8 outs and practically nothing behind, so you are getting, what, 1.4:1 max implied odds on your 2.2:1 dog. Dump it.

Only if the stacks are ridiculously deep is it worth even considering a call. And re-up to a full stack next time.
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Old 04-28-2007, 09:49 AM
christyirish christyirish is offline
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Default Re: AA preflop Raiser, Hero?

if you were going to play, you should have bet the flop yorself.

calling is a mistake- 8 outs and you might only get half if you make it
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Old 04-28-2007, 09:51 AM
Big Dave D Big Dave D is offline
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Default Re: AA preflop Raiser, Hero?

Playing that short its a debatable preflop call to. If you want to short stack, read Rolfs book.

gl

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Old 04-28-2007, 10:51 AM
Madrugada Madrugada is offline
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Default Re: AA preflop Raiser, Hero?

thanks for the comments.

i checked the flop to c/r all-in when he bets 1/3 Pot or so. After a short decision on the flop i raised AI with my implied odds.
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Old 04-28-2007, 11:18 AM
DonCologne DonCologne is offline
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Default Re: AA preflop Raiser, Hero?

[ QUOTE ]
thanks for the comments.

i checked the flop to c/r all-in when he bets 1/3 Pot or so. After a short decision on the flop i raised AI with my implied odds.

[/ QUOTE ]

???

implied odds you have, if can win on the 4th and 5th street additional money if you hit your draw.

So with your push you have no more implied odds. And with your short stack you have neither fold equity and nor implied odds if you call.

So fold your weak draw and wait for a better spot to shove.
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Old 04-28-2007, 12:00 PM
Cadence Lauren Cadence Lauren is offline
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Default Re: AA preflop Raiser, Hero?

See my post above. On a call, you have at most 1.4:1 implied odds and are a 2.2:1 dog. On a shove, you have zero implied odds because you have NOTHING behind and therefore nothing more to win.
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Old 04-28-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: AA preflop Raiser, Hero?

[ QUOTE ]
thanks for the comments.

i checked the flop to c/r all-in when he bets 1/3 Pot or so. After a short decision on the flop i raised AI with my implied odds.

[/ QUOTE ]

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Old 04-28-2007, 04:36 PM
iggymcfly iggymcfly is offline
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Default Re: AA preflop Raiser, Hero?

1. Look up "implied odds" on the internet. I'm sure you can find a definition somewhere.

2. If CO's "ultra-tight", your best chance of getting him to fold is to lead for the pot. You're nowhere near deep enough to go for a C/R here.
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