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Old 05-20-2006, 01:19 PM
jively jively is offline
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Default 6-4 sooted

BB is 20/11/1.25 after 35 hands. Crypto $1/2 table was tight like normal. Any problems until river (that is, ok to call 1 bet with 5 outs to 2 pair or trips)? Any chance I'm good here on the river? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


Cryptologic
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (10SB, 5 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7.5BB, 5 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB folds.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (10.5BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero ???

Thanks,

-Tom
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:32 PM
Str8Fish Str8Fish is offline
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Default Re: 6-4 sooted

wow you suck. What's up with the pf call? Why are you sticking around past the turn? Can I sit at your table sometime?
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:44 PM
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wow you suck. What's up with the pf call? Why are you sticking around past the turn? Can I sit at your table sometime?

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SSHE says at the tight table, 6-4 suited is a limp in an unraised pot PF from late position. 2 limpers in front of me, the pot is going to be at least 4-handed. SB completes so it's even better for me at 5-handed. The BB wakes up with something to raise with...

If BB has AK-AT, KK-TT, etc., I have 5 outs to take the lead if a 6 or 4 comes. For 5 outs you need 8.2 to 1 to call. It was 13-to-1 when it got back to me. On the turn it is 9.5-to-1 when it gets back to me.

Yes, if he has AA or 99 I am drawing dead. I don't think I suck, though. Come sit at my table anytime.

Ok, river is a fold...

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Old 05-20-2006, 01:45 PM
kerowo kerowo is offline
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Fold pre-flop, there aren't enough people in the pot to make this profitable. Fold the flop, you are behind. Fold the turn, you are behind. Fold the river you are behind.
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:57 PM
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I need at least one more person in the hand to make this call preflop.

You are getting the odds to draw on the flop and turn -- you probably have 4.5-5 outs. I don't think villian is making these bets into several players with a hand you beat, so I think you can toss this on the river (unless you have some fantastic read). I can't think of anything villian has that you beat here (I'm guessing AK, AQ, etc.).
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Old 05-20-2006, 01:59 PM
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Fold the flop, you are behind. Fold the turn, you are behind.

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Huh? He likely has 5 outs, and is getting good odds here.
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:04 PM
OnePatheticLoser OnePatheticLoser is offline
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no, I lay this one down every time.

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Fold the flop, you are behind. Fold the turn, you are behind.


Huh? He likely has 5 outs, and is getting good odds here.
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:33 PM
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Grunch:

Easy fold.
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:42 PM
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Preflop: Little loose on this call. Not terrible though.

Flop: I hate folding this getting the odds you are but you really have to think about what you can stay with on the turn if you dont improve.

Turn. Easy fold as I dont think you count your outs as a full 5 anymore. I discount them to about 3 and there is a decent chance you are drawing dead.
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Old 05-20-2006, 02:46 PM
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I would prefer to have more than 2 limpers to call pf with this hand.

Flop and turn calls look ok.

I would not have called the river bet. The pf raiser should be able to beat your pair.

Its unlikely that he would be bluffing when he bets into his 2 remaining opponents. He probably has AK or a high pocket pair.

Oh and you dont suck ! The purpose of this forum is to help all of us to improve their game. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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