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Old 12-01-2007, 12:33 PM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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Absolute poker 10-20 6 handed

I have A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

utg is unknown
BB is a very solid regular tag


utg limps, I raise in the CO, only the BB calls, utg calls.


Flop (3 players) 9sb


A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB bets, utg calls, I raise, bb calls, utg 3bets, I call, BB caps, utg calls, I call


Turn (3 players) 9.5BB

A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]


BB bets, UTG raises, now it's your turn, getting 12.5-2
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: turn spot

turn card changed nothing at all.

imho u are dead from the flop on. fold there. Turn? make math und suck out on a set [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:51 PM
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Easy fold IMO. Seems like the best case scenario we can hope for is BB has 43s and UTG is a moron so you actually have outs.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:16 PM
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Hand 1 is fish, hand 2 is solid reg

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

10,164 games 0.002 secs 5,082,000 games/sec

Board: Ah 5s 2c As
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 15.156% 14.34% 00.81% 1458 82.50 { Ad6d }
Hand 1: 34.755% 28.88% 05.88% 2935 597.50 { 55, 22, A5s, A2s, 43s, A5o, A2o, 43o }
Hand 2: 50.089% 44.65% 05.44% 4538 553.00 { 55, 22, A5s, A2s, 43s }
</pre><hr />

Actually it sucks if the fish has a lot of naked Ax in his range

Looks like a clear fold to me
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:17 PM
frenchpignouf frenchpignouf is offline
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I don't raise the flop, a tag like you very often iso raise in CO with AX or a pp, so what is the point of donking for a good player a flop with no clear draw ? 2 pair, 34 or a set are a big part of his range imo.

You don't close the action, BB 3 bet a lot especially if you call.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:20 PM
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Ya I forgot to add that

A solid players donk on this flop in these positions is a monster more often than not. I would consider donking sets and flopped straights here
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:58 PM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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well, i see you guys realized there is a flaw in how this hand was played.

you know me, I'm not raising this flop ever when one of you bets.

I was actually watching someone play, and this hand came up.

I advocated folding on the flop somewhere, although I could see myself getting strung along.

On the turn, I also it's a clear fold. Sure we have trips, but the BB has us beat always, and the fish probably has at least Ax.

I guess that is the difference between people that can read hands and those that cannot.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:23 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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pot is 6.5 sb on flop.

when utg 3-bets you're getting 13.5:1 and i would gladly fold there. also i wouldn't raise the flop in the first place.
<font color="white">.....................you didnt raise flop huh?</font>
convert your hands mmmmkay
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:50 PM
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you have slightly less than enough pot odds to call for a split boat or pair your kicker. You also can't be certain you wont get raised again if you call. Looks like a fold.
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