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Old 11-22-2007, 01:01 PM
Casper05 Casper05 is offline
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Default KK preflop

UTG is LAGish regular and I think he's folding almost everything to the 3bet. We have played the deep stacked game together a couple times, staying out of each other's way mostly.

BTN has been pretty nitty (14/7/1)

I sat down recently and haven't played any hands of note.

call and play poker?

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Hero (SB): $476
BB: $103.35
UTG: $2,541.90
MP: $415.70
CO: $330.90
BTN: $498.80

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $54</font>, Hero
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop

I 4 bet. Has button 3 bet before? I guess I'm wondering if you're posting this because you think it's a great spot or if you think you're about to be coolered. Anyway, I usually lean towards 4 betting OOP.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop

How many hands are the button's stats over?

I would 4-bet here as standard
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop

hand sample size is very relevant here 4 bet is def. more standard, followed by puking if he shoves.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop

ugly spot. I would flat. I would also fold AK here
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop

flat seems good btn would play optimally if you 4-town.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop

BTN's stats are over about 70 hands..significant enought to know that he's a nit.

I flatted, now wtf? Pretty easy check/fold?

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $476
BB: $103.35
UTG: $2,541.90
MP: $415.70
CO: $330.90
BTN: $498.80

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $54</font>, Hero calls $52, 2 folds

Flop: ($128) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop

You got to be censored very often on that flop. But what determines is you should check/call on street is if he 3-bet w/ AKo/s pre and bet this flop.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop

utg &amp; button will recognise this as a good spot for a resqueeze.
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:04 PM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: KK preflop

[ QUOTE ]
flat seems good btn would play optimally if you 4-town.

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I think a flat is good too, but not sure if BTN will play optimally even if we 4-town. A 14/7 nit that has finally picked up QQ/AK won't necessarily be able to fold it even if he hates being 4-bet.
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