nl10 overpair vs resistance

sharkscopeaholic · #1 11-12-2007, 04:38 PM

should i push or call and take one off the deck?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($9.10)
UTG ($11.70)
UTG+1 ($5.15)
Hero ($8.85)
MP2 ($10.80)
MP3 ($12.70)
CO ($2)
Button ($3.90)
SB ($21.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.10.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.3, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.30, 4 folds.

Flop: ($0.80) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $0.5, MP3 raises to $1, Hero raises to $3, MP3 raises to $6, Hero ?

sharkscopeaholic · #2 11-12-2007, 05:05 PM

Here's another tough one, at least for me.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|[color=#C00000]saw showdown

UTG+1 ($1.70)
MP1 ($2.50)
MP2 ($6.45)
MP3 ($8.30)
CO ($1.85)
Button ($10.40)
Hero ($7.40)
BB ($1.70)
UTG ($2.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

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[color=#666666]2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, [color=#666666]1 fold, [color=#CC3333]MP3 raises to $0.3, [color=#666666]1 fold, Button calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, [color=#666666]1 fold, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($1.10)

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[color=#0000FF](3 players)
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]MP3 bets $0.5, Button folds, Hero calls $0.50.

Turn: ($2.10)

[color=#0000FF](2 players)
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]MP3 bets $0.8, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $1.6, [color=#CC3333]MP3 raises to $4.5, Hero ?

CaptVimes · #3 11-12-2007, 05:05 PM

I would call villain's mini-raise here and see the turn. You can make you PF raises a little bigger, 4bb, but that doesn't matter much. Lead the flop stronger on the drawy board. Bet Close to the pot size.

As play you should fold or shove. Probably shove since the pot is 9.8 and you have less than 5 bucks remaining in your stack. Calling is the absolute worst option. Your committing your stack when pretty much any bet on the turn (which you will generally have to call) is putting you all in anyway.

TJ Eckleburg12 · #4 11-12-2007, 05:33 PM

For the first hand, I agree with pushing or folding based on your read on the flop, for the reason vimes mentioned.

For the second hand... what is this passive crap? Re-raise preflop, or at least check/raise the flop.

When your turn check/raise gets re-raised, that's the villain telling you he ain't skerred of a paired board, so you should probably fold.

And never, ever, ever check/min-raise again please.

sharkscopeaholic · #5 11-12-2007, 06:22 PM

I played passive preflop because I didnt want to build a huge pot yet oop against two people. I figured it would also disguise my hand well. Shold i have raise to like $1?

I called on the flop since he basically just cbet it (i now put him on AK or AQ or KQs)and if a non A K or Q comes then he might bluff bet it again, other wise i didnt think i get anything from him.

Foldem78 · #6 11-12-2007, 09:23 PM

You're just a bit passive...

Here's an experiment...if you think you have a better hand than you're opponent PF; raise it up..(hint: since your running 14/5; you usually will!!)..and C-bet most flops..pot flops that are scary looking..

If villain calls..and turn is non-scary..fire another one!..by the turn you should have a pretty good idea what kind of hand they have..

if you're not sure about ranges..check PT (went to showdown stats) to get an idea of what people are calling you down with.

Also,..experiment..play really aggro (move down obv.) raise any hand you would check/call with!?..just to see what kind of a response you get...

I'll only call with a hand if I don't think a bet will allow me to play the hand HU...

CaptVimes · #7 11-12-2007, 09:31 PM

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I played passive preflop because I didnt want to build a huge pot yet oop against two people. I figured it would also disguise my hand well. Shold i have raise to like $1?

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I know what your thinking, but you are incorrect. JJ is a good hand, too good to just set mine with. If I'm going to have to play this OOP I would really like it heads up and I want to have initiative on the flop. But mostly I raise so I can get value out of worse hands that will call. Hands like AK, AQ, AJ, KQ, and others that will call but basically be gone if they miss the flop.

Say, instead of calling you raised to 1.20 and you got one villain to call and everyone else folds, you cbet and he folds. You net 1.70 on the that play. If you played like you did but you raised the flop after he bet .50 and everyone folds. In this instance you only net $1.30. So yeah, you got an extra bet out of him, but so what. Plus Jacks are a hand I want to play fast, after the flop any A,K,orQ hitting really makes you have to slow down a bit and 12 out of the remaining 47 cards are A,K, or Q.