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Old 09-27-2007, 02:33 AM
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1) Forget everything you learned in WLLH.

2) Re-read SSHE a bunch more to help yourself understand how to play multiway and in loose pots

3) Understand that as you play bigger stakes you need to adjust more vs aggressive and passive opponents, loose and tight opponents. A lot of these hidden gems are in SSHE.

4) Read WTO, only read the street by street examples and the blinds. You can ignore the odds calculations until later, you should have an odds chart memorized by now thanks to SSHE.

5) Read How Good is your Limit Hold'em. It will blow your mind! Its really a 6-max book which was adjusted for full ring because back then full ring sold better, not anymore.

6) Stoxtrader. I have a feeling Barry T's new 6-handed book might be a better fit here before Stox now, but I haven't read it to be sure. Stox's book is brilliant, just make sure you tighten your range a bit to match your opponents and adjust for the loose play your encountering compared to what you will see in his book.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:13 AM
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what is WTO?

What is the name/author of the "stoxtrader" book?
What about "Barry T's" book?

sorry, I am out of touch with the 2+2 community.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:35 AM
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I think WTO is 'weighing the odds', Yao's book. ( http://www.amazon.com/Weighing-Odds-Hold...2133&sr=1-1 )

stox's book is called 'winning in tough hold'em games' by nick grudzien. ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1880685...d=1BIDOGF6EAHZE )

Barry T's book is 'winning short handed strategies' ( http://www.amazon.com/Limit-Holdem-Winni...2022&sr=1-1 ) I still have to read that one for sure.

I'm anxiously awaiting "how good is your limit hold'em, part 2" ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1904468...d=1BIDOGF6EAHZE )

Best book I've ever read so far was "how good is your limit hold'em, part 1". Too bad it's so short.

One that is not often mentioned is 'hold'em on the come' ( http://www.amazon.com/Holdem-Come-Limit-...d=1BIDOGF6EAHZE ) which is also a nice book. I think D&B books are much better written than some of the competitors' books.
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Old 09-27-2007, 11:50 AM
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I think WTO is 'weighing the odds', Yao's book. ( http://www.amazon.com/Weighing-Odds-Hold...2133&sr=1-1 )

stox's book is called 'winning in tough hold'em games' by nick grudzien. ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1880685...d=1BIDOGF6EAHZE )

Barry T's book is 'winning short handed strategies' ( http://www.amazon.com/Limit-Holdem-Winni...2022&sr=1-1 ) I still have to read that one for sure.

I'm anxiously awaiting "how good is your limit hold'em, part 2" ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1904468...d=1BIDOGF6EAHZE )

Best book I've ever read so far was "how good is your limit hold'em, part 1". Too bad it's so short.

One that is not often mentioned is 'hold'em on the come' ( http://www.amazon.com/Holdem-Come-Limit-...d=1BIDOGF6EAHZE ) which is also a nice book. I think D&B books are much better written than some of the competitors' books.

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D&B tends to be the second best publisher in the field. This is not a slight to D&B at all, its actually a huge compliment. Its hard to compete with 2+2's accuracy and first in field status when it comes to poker, D&B has done a fine job so far with fewer concept errors than most third party publishers have (which is kind of amazing actually, publishing a poker book is very tough work).

Hold'em on the Come is SSHE rehashed. If your having a tough time in multiway pots or understanding implied odds then you should read this book, if not it can be skipped to focus on advanced texts - its a personal decision IMHO. HTOTC is really a book about adjusting for hidden outs and implied odds - a good skill to practice but I think 75% of the poster sin the this forum already have that covered.

I'll say it again HGIYLHE is fantastic. Its not foolproof however, part of reading the book is disagreeing with the author. There are a few spots pre-flop when I feel he is recommended a non-optimal solution, and one hand that stands out as very lag-spewy; other than that its the book that I used to practice while traveling on the subway every day for a year. Yep... I think about poker every day, all the time. I am always practicing, its to easy to let muscle memory take over which leads to huge mistakes.

The last book to consider is Middle Limit Hold'em by Ciafone and Brier. Whats odd is Brier co-write HGIYLHE with Byron for D&B, its odd because Middle Limit Hold'em is about as weak tight as they get, and HGIYLHE is not weak tight at all. If you read Middle Limit Hold'em the just read the overcards section, it might be the most complete section on overcards to date. If AK has got you down, this will pick you up. Just take the advice with a grain of salt, you will be folding everywhere and only making .5BB/hour if you follow their advice word for word.... find the errors and you will be using the force [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:36 AM
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FWIW - I recommend Barry's new book - advanced limit hold'em You have to wait a bit or order it via Amazon thur a different seller - I used the book depository.

He is a pro that plays 30/60+ at the Bellagio. The N-CAL games, I think, are a little different than Las Vegas but I enjoyed his book. It is for mostly live play (You will see his name mentioned in WLLH 3rd edition).
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Old 09-28-2007, 11:50 AM
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only played 15/30 at AJs a few times but it seemed like the same guys every time; seemed similar to oaks in difficulty, maybe a little more loose/gambly. I don't think the game is much tougher than 6/12 there either.

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AJ's biggest game is 15/30 so you have the same players all the time. Oaks has a regular 30/60 that is tougher than the 15/30 imho. It might be worth a trip across the bridge for you. If you don't play there much you will be against some players that might not know how you play. You got a bunch of good book recommendations.

My long term goal is to beat the Oaks 30/60 game.
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