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#1
10-28-2007, 08:26 AM
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Your action?
Opponent is a Standardish TAG, 29/22/2.3ish.
$5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 6 players Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG folds, MP folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls. Flop: (4.60 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls. Turn: (3.30 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, Hero........... What's your action and why? 
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#2
10-28-2007, 08:56 AM
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Re: Your action?
bet. you likely have the best hand still and want to make him pay. you can safely call down if raised. youll lose most of the time you dont improve but the call is the least worst play if raised. checking the turn is too passive and bad form.
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#3
10-28-2007, 09:36 AM
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Re: Your action?
i think its an easy bet/call. He should have all sorts of hands with a heart that he didn't feel like getting aggro with on the flop (especially if he's been caught bluffing recently or you've been showing down light).
If he raises, calling the river UI is not good against vast majority of 5/10 tags. they will usually realize that any A-hi hand has a str8 draw and won't fold so they don't bother semibluffing without a gigantic draw. Plz keep posting in this forum, we could use your experience down here.
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#4
10-28-2007, 09:40 AM
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#5
10-28-2007, 10:04 AM
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Re: Your action?
Not sure why would not bet you have 18 outs and you could still have the best hand as well....
I would imagine that this is a trick question though...since it seems so obvious to bet. The only reason that I could think of for checking, is then most Tag's would not think you had a heart or an ace and basically bet the river no matter what comes. If your one of your cards comes, you can raise the river and if it does not come...you can fold....and get out cheaply. Still like betting better.
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#6
10-28-2007, 11:04 AM
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Re: Your action?
Checking has some merit against a loose flop peeler that will bluff river quite a lot since there will be so many hands in his range you dont mind giving out a free card to and which might fold.
Against a tighter player that wont bluff that much I would just bet. So againt this player I bet. Against a moron 40/10 guy I check.
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#7
10-28-2007, 09:45 AM
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Re: Your action?
I would bet. We could have as many as 17 outs (if I added correctly) if behind. Also there is a chance we are ahead if villain holds a lower FD.
His flop c/c on this board looks a bit odd to me. I wonder what the standard interpretation of it is. A low pair, trying to get to show-down unless board turns bad? What I mean is that if he's on a draw the board is pretty scary and he should make a move to win UI. But maybe he i thinking that it will be hard to win UI because the board is so scary. That is: Mr Tall will call down light unless a heart falls. Now I've talked to myself enough. Anyway bet!
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#8
10-28-2007, 04:26 PM
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Re: Your action?
What exactly does betting do for us?
It protects us against non-pair hands that we are ahead of. But does it really? All of these hands have at best 4 outs against us, and most if not all with a heart will be seeing the river anyway. The pot isn't so big that giving a free card to a 4 outer is a huge mistake. Are there arguments against Betting? Yes, the simplest being that, if we are behind it is foolish to not take a free card with so many outs. By betting we give our opponent the most action we will give unimproved to a middling 1 Pair hand, and open ourselves up to being charged the most for our draw from Sets, Straights, and the small percentage of made Flushes. Another reason to check the Turn is the possibility that villain may semi-bluff CR the turn with a decent heart. This creates the possibility of us folding what may be the best hand on the river, and makes our decision making harder if we improve on the river without making our flush. The aggressiveness of our opponent makes this a decent possibility. My vote is check, raising if a heart or 5 that falls on the river and calling if we improve with a non-heart 9 or A. Whether or not to call the river unimproved is a judgment call based on what falls on the river and opponent reads. I lean most towards folding unimproved most of the time. I think we will end up paying off too many hands and foregoing some of the advantages of checking the Turn.
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#10
10-28-2007, 06:33 PM
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Re: Your action?
[ QUOTE ]
If you're going to check the turn I think you have to call practically all rivers, don't you? [/ QUOTE ] Not Really. Assuming we have goaded villain into betting 100% on the River I think the actions we take the roughly 35% we do improve mitigate the losses we take the percentage of times we don't improve on the River AND our opponent is bluffing. In short, given my idea of his hand range and the fact that we improve so much of time, I don't think he has a bluffing frequency in his range to make folding to MOST river bets unimproved incorrect.
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