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Old 11-18-2007, 11:29 AM
1fineday 1fineday is offline
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Default Flopping a set on a dry board

Villain is 48/20/1 on 29 hands
What is the best way to play this hand?
Check/call flop, bet turn?
Lead on the flop?
Check/call flop, check/raise turn?

Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BTN: $31.44
SB: $21.74
Hero (BB): $29.32
UTG: $54.78
MP: $26.09
CO: $7.59

Pre-Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, CO calls $0.25, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.50</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $1.25, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.60) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $2.50</font>, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, BTN folds

Results: $8.60 Pot
Hero mucked 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and WON $12.17 (+$8.17 NET)
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: Flopping a set on a dry board

Donkbet and pray.
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: Flopping a set on a dry board

If your opponent did not connect with the board, you can't expect to get too much action. I probably lead this flop, hoping to get raised by the PFR who might have hit his king. If he folds, shrug your shoulders and move on to the next hand.

Check-raising is a very strong move and gets many hands that you want to call to fold.
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: Flopping a set on a dry board

and what about c/c flop, lead on the turn?
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: Flopping a set on a dry board

Shows to much strength. Misses value when villain actually has a hand that he wants to get it in with and forces TPTK-like hands out of the pot.
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: Flopping a set on a dry board

If my opponent is very aggressive I check to him and try to get him to do the betting. I think you played it correctly because at least you're getting a C-bet out of him.
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: Flopping a set on a dry board

I almost always lead into the preflop raiser in this spot. Its great for disguising the hand and if villain is going to pay you off its because his hand hits the flop. I bet out and hope he raises
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: Flopping a set on a dry board

I dont like leading out here. The board is too dry for that, we are pretty much hoping he has AA or a strong king. I like c/c flop and lead turn for like 1/2 pot. I also do this with pairs sometimes so it adds some balance to my play as well. If the board was KQ3 or something like that then its a different story. I think donking here will get him to fold wayyy too often when you would have at least gotten a c-bet out of him.
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: Flopping a set on a dry board

I think that the gains from when he does have a hand and raises are &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; than picking off a cbet once in a while
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: Flopping a set on a dry board

What Im getting at is he will gain that very seldom. How big are AA, AK, and KQ in his range? Surely there are a good amount of other hands as well. Even if villain has QQ theres a chance you get him to fold it by doing this as opposed to at least getting one bet out of him. I think donk betting with sets is perfect on drawy boards or at least boards with 2 broadway. I think this board is great for a donk bet if youre bluffing, but not for hoping to b/3b on.
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