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#31
08-27-2007, 02:34 AM
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Re: Questions for Hoss_TBF
3RD barrel is Nick Shulman, everyone knows that.
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#33
08-27-2007, 04:15 AM
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Re: Questions for Hoss_TBF
Faaaaaaaaaaaawk, I wanted to ask his thoughts on the TLK hand.
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#34
08-27-2007, 04:50 AM
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[ QUOTE ] I played with him a bunch in the 50k HORSE. I thought he played really well. Ask him about that maybe? How old is he btw? Nice guy. I got to know him during the ante up for africa tournament. [/ QUOTE ] how many times did he knock you out? [/ QUOTE ] sometimes i get tired of these, but this was fantastic. A freaking +
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#35
08-27-2007, 02:07 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I played with him a bunch in the 50k HORSE. I thought he played really well. Ask him about that maybe? How old is he btw? Nice guy. I got to know him during the ante up for africa tournament. [/ QUOTE ] how many times did he knock you out? [/ QUOTE ] ZING! [/ QUOTE ] It takes a pretty good ZJ joke to make me laugh anymore, but this one is unexpected, thus hilarious
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#36
08-27-2007, 03:38 PM
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Re: Questions for Hoss_TBF
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I played with him a bunch in the 50k HORSE. I thought he played really well. Ask him about that maybe? How old is he btw? Nice guy. I got to know him during the ante up for africa tournament. [/ QUOTE ] how many times did he knock you out? [/ QUOTE ] ZING! [/ QUOTE ] It takes a pretty good ZJ joke to make me laugh anymore, but this one is unexpected, thus hilarious [/ QUOTE ]
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#37
08-27-2007, 03:44 PM
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Re: Questions for Hoss_TBF
Here is the hand:
Full Tilt Poker Game #928921427: Table Tiger (heads up) - $500/$1000 - Limit Hold'em - 23:43:26 ET - 2006/08/23 Seat 1: eastsideslim ($113,579) Seat 2: TexasLimitKing ($53,004) TexasLimitKing posts the small blind of $250 eastsideslim posts the big blind of $500 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** TexasLimitKing raises to $1,000 eastsideslim calls $500 *** FLOP *** [Qc 2d 6h] eastsideslim checks TexasLimitKing bets $500 eastsideslim raises to $1,000 helstock (Observer): slim u r sick TexasLimitKing calls $500 *** TURN *** [Qc 2d 6h] [Qs] eastsideslim bets $1,000 TexasLimitKing calls $1,000 helstock (Observer): killing tex *** RIVER *** [Qc 2d 6h Qs] [6d] eastsideslim bets $1,000 TexasLimitKing calls $1,000 *** SHOW DOWN *** eastsideslim shows [3s 3d] (two pair, Queens and Sixes) TexasLimitKing shows [4d 4c] (two pair, Queens and Sixes) TexasLimitKing wins the pot ($7,999.50) with two pair, Queens and Sixes Here are my thoughts: My order of preference for this river is: raise, fold, replace my lettuce leaves with $100 bills and toss them up with a few croutons, a splash of raspberry vinaigrette and maybe some Prosciutto (for flare). TLK’s river play is a game theoretic disaster. For this board, He’s at the very bottom of his distribution. When I'm at the bottom of my distribution on any given river, I bluff. I have soooooo many A-high and K-high hands in my distribution on the river because the top card paired on the turn, and now I'm calling with all A and K highs on this river, so I'm very comfortable with my calling distribution. However, if I have a super strong read that the guy's river play is really imbalanced towards bluff hands, I may choose to exploit by calling more liberally. The most effective (and least counter-exploitable) method to exploit, however, is to change how I would play my marginal hands. Here, my marginal hands are counterfeited deuces with a medium kicker (J2, T2s . . .). In theory, I could call the river with these hands but my opponent would have to be playing pretty far out of line for me to try to exploit in this manner. He should hold far more bluffing hands here than just threes, stuff like 54, 53, 43 and 87s, all of which prompt me to hit caps lock and type DOHHH MISCLICK. The borderline hands stand to gain a lot of value through proper exploitive play, but making enormo-laydowns or silly calls is generally very costly.
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#38
08-27-2007, 03:47 PM
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Re: Questions for Hoss_TBF
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Here is the hand: Full Tilt Poker Game #928921427: Table Tiger (heads up) - $500/$1000 - Limit Hold'em - 23:43:26 ET - 2006/08/23 Seat 1: eastsideslim ($113,579) Seat 2: TexasLimitKing ($53,004) TexasLimitKing posts the small blind of $250 eastsideslim posts the big blind of $500 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** TexasLimitKing raises to $1,000 eastsideslim calls $500 *** FLOP *** [Qc 2d 6h] eastsideslim checks TexasLimitKing bets $500 eastsideslim raises to $1,000 helstock (Observer): slim u r sick TexasLimitKing calls $500 *** TURN *** [Qc 2d 6h] [Qs] eastsideslim bets $1,000 TexasLimitKing calls $1,000 helstock (Observer): killing tex *** RIVER *** [Qc 2d 6h Qs] [6d] eastsideslim bets $1,000 TexasLimitKing calls $1,000 *** SHOW DOWN *** eastsideslim shows [3s 3d] (two pair, Queens and Sixes) TexasLimitKing shows [4d 4c] (two pair, Queens and Sixes) TexasLimitKing wins the pot ($7,999.50) with two pair, Queens and Sixes Here are my thoughts: My order of preference for this river is: raise, fold, replace my lettuce leaves with $100 bills and toss them up with a few croutons, a splash of raspberry vinaigrette and maybe some Prosciutto (for flare). TLK’s river play is a game theoretic disaster. For this board, He’s at the very bottom of his distribution. When I'm at the bottom of my distribution on any given river, I bluff. I have soooooo many A-high and K-high hands in my distribution on the river because the top card paired on the turn, and now I'm calling with all A and K highs on this river, so I'm very comfortable with my calling distribution. However, if I have a super strong read that the guy's river play is really imbalanced towards bluff hands, I may choose to exploit by calling more liberally. The most effective (and least counter-exploitable) method to exploit, however, is to change how I would play my marginal hands. Here, my marginal hands are counterfeited deuces with a medium kicker (J2, T2s . . .). In theory, I could call the river with these hands but my opponent would have to be playing pretty far out of line for me to try to exploit in this manner. He should hold far more bluffing hands here than just threes, stuff like 54, 53, 43 and 87s, all of which prompt me to hit caps lock and type DOHHH MISCLICK. The borderline hands stand to gain a lot of value through proper exploitive play, but making enormo-laydowns or silly calls is generally very costly. [/ QUOTE ] IMO anyone who believes this is anything other than a misclick or a misread board is pretty dumb...
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#39
08-27-2007, 03:48 PM
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Re: Questions for Hoss_TBF
^^^^^^^ you sir understand poker. and was sick play at final table of million.
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#40
08-27-2007, 03:50 PM
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Re: Questions for Hoss_TBF
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[ QUOTE ] Here is the hand: Full Tilt Poker Game #928921427: Table Tiger (heads up) - $500/$1000 - Limit Hold'em - 23:43:26 ET - 2006/08/23 Seat 1: eastsideslim ($113,579) Seat 2: TexasLimitKing ($53,004) TexasLimitKing posts the small blind of $250 eastsideslim posts the big blind of $500 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** TexasLimitKing raises to $1,000 eastsideslim calls $500 *** FLOP *** [Qc 2d 6h] eastsideslim checks TexasLimitKing bets $500 eastsideslim raises to $1,000 helstock (Observer): slim u r sick TexasLimitKing calls $500 *** TURN *** [Qc 2d 6h] [Qs] eastsideslim bets $1,000 TexasLimitKing calls $1,000 helstock (Observer): killing tex *** RIVER *** [Qc 2d 6h Qs] [6d] eastsideslim bets $1,000 TexasLimitKing calls $1,000 *** SHOW DOWN *** eastsideslim shows [3s 3d] (two pair, Queens and Sixes) TexasLimitKing shows [4d 4c] (two pair, Queens and Sixes) TexasLimitKing wins the pot ($7,999.50) with two pair, Queens and Sixes Here are my thoughts: My order of preference for this river is: raise, fold, replace my lettuce leaves with $100 bills and toss them up with a few croutons, a splash of raspberry vinaigrette and maybe some Prosciutto (for flare). TLK’s river play is a game theoretic disaster. For this board, He’s at the very bottom of his distribution. When I'm at the bottom of my distribution on any given river, I bluff. I have soooooo many A-high and K-high hands in my distribution on the river because the top card paired on the turn, and now I'm calling with all A and K highs on this river, so I'm very comfortable with my calling distribution. However, if I have a super strong read that the guy's river play is really imbalanced towards bluff hands, I may choose to exploit by calling more liberally. The most effective (and least counter-exploitable) method to exploit, however, is to change how I would play my marginal hands. Here, my marginal hands are counterfeited deuces with a medium kicker (J2, T2s . . .). In theory, I could call the river with these hands but my opponent would have to be playing pretty far out of line for me to try to exploit in this manner. He should hold far more bluffing hands here than just threes, stuff like 54, 53, 43 and 87s, all of which prompt me to hit caps lock and type DOHHH MISCLICK. The borderline hands stand to gain a lot of value through proper exploitive play, but making enormo-laydowns or silly calls is generally very costly. [/ QUOTE ] IMO anyone who believes this is anything other than a misclick or a misread board is pretty dumb... [/ QUOTE ] why did this idiot have to post before me?
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