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Old 10-04-2007, 12:36 PM
tuckercat tuckercat is offline
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Default downswinging towards suicide...line checks

in the midst of a 13k downswing...standard running bad spots, or is my play at fault here? thoughts as always appreciated...


Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $530.40
UTG: $614.20
Hero (MP): $600
CO: $2,065.65
BTN: $128.55
SB: $257.40

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $21</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $78</font>, Hero calls $57

Flop: ($159) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $132</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $306</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $452.40 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $146.40

Turn: ($1,063.80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($1,063.80) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $1,063.80 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB showed A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Aces) and WON $1,060.80 (+$530.40 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Kings) and LOST (-$530.40 NET)

Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $523.45
CO: $600
BTN: $1,205.20
Hero (SB): $734.35
BB: $609

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $21</font>, Hero calls $18, BB folds

Flop: ($48) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $36</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $102</font>, BTN calls $66

Turn: ($252) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $240</font>, BTN calls $240

River: ($732) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $371.35 and is All-In</font>, BTN calls $371.35

Results: $1,474.70 Pot ($3 Rake)
BTN showed K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a flush, King high) and WON $1,471.70 (+$737.35 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Threes) and LOST (-$734.35 NET)

Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $409.20
CO: $323.60
Hero (BTN): $628.35
SB: $2,041.65
BB: $144.15
UTG: $308.40

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $12</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $45</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $33

Flop: ($99) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $99</font>, CO calls $99

Turn: ($297) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $100</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $484.35 and is All-In</font>, CO calls $79.60 and is All-In

River: ($656.20) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $656.20 Pot ($3 Rake)
CO showed 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Sevens) and WON $653.20 (+$329.60 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$323.60 NET)

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $890.40
BB: $216.60
UTG: $400
Hero (MP): $416
CO: $246.60
BTN: $640.20

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $14, SB calls $12, BB folds

Flop: ($46) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $32</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $626.20 and is All-In</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $370 and is All-In

Turn: ($850) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($850) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $850 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$416 NET)
BTN showed 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Fours) and WON $847 (+$431 NET)

Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $504.40
UTG: $1,453.90
Hero (CO): $1,270.60
BTN: $597
SB: $607.35

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $21</font>, BTN calls $21, 2 folds

Flop: ($51) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $51</font>, BTN calls $51

Turn: ($153) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $153</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $525 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $372

River: ($1,203) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $1,203 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Jacks and Fours) and LOST (-$597 NET)
BTN showed 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Fours) and WON $1,200 (+$603 NET)
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:42 PM
Praetor Praetor is offline
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Default Re: downswinging towards suicide...line checks

1 i 4 bet or flat the flop
2 is fine
3 is fine
4 is fine
5 is fine

running bad imo
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:47 PM
stackingboxes stackingboxes is offline
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Default Re: downswinging towards suicide...line checks

I believe KK hand is foldable to the all in.

last JJ hand is player dependent, but its not a bad call.

U ran like [censored]. gl
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: downswinging towards suicide...line checks

Hand 1 don't like the reraise, and when he 3bet shoves, no way you beat him there with 1 pair.

Hand 2 preflop WTF

Hand 3 whatever, he's got little left behind anyway.

Hand 4 his shove is insane, but why would he do that?? He knows you aren't folding when you've shown strength, so surely he is doing this to want you to call.. do you really then want to see what he has???

Hand 5 just fold PLEASE, you've made 2 big PSB's and he's putting you all in, they are almost never bluffing here.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:50 PM
fslexcduck fslexcduck is offline
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Default Re: downswinging towards suicide...line checks

hand 2 your bet sizing is so weird - you c/r like half pot on the flop but then full pot the turn? i just don't understand what you're thinking. i'd rather c/r full pot then bet less on the turn... maybe you could explain your thoughts?

fold hand 4.

and why are you full potting on hand 5? i think the way you played it is maybe the only way you can fold to that shove. just bet less ffs.
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:40 PM
KeanuReaver KeanuReaver is offline
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Default Re: downswinging towards suicide...line checks

hand 5 is the only hand that looks reasonably foldable
downswings suck :[[[[
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Old 10-04-2007, 02:06 PM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Re: downswinging towards suicide...line checks

1) I would probably try to get it in pre since the guy has &lt;90 bb's. Postflop is okay.

2 and 3 seem okay.

4) 2+2 has a hard on for snap calling overbets, so I don't think anyone will hate on you too much for this but I think it's really close. A read would also be very helpful.

5) I would bet less on the turn and fold to the raise.
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: downswinging towards suicide...line checks

you gotta get away from the KK hand. the JJ hand is close...
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: downswinging towards suicide...line checks

Hand 2 sucks imo - 3 bet pf all day this deep
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: downswinging towards suicide...line checks

Meh hand 4, I see bad players showing up with a worse overpair or some crap enough to make the call. I'm assuming it's not the most solid of players.

Would you fold with 22 in hand 4? If not, what do you expect him to show up with after you call?
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