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Old 08-14-2007, 10:07 PM
BlackAMEX BlackAMEX is offline
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Default 400nl: Argggghhh villian minraises flop (deepish stacks)

Villian - 37/10/3 over about 100 hands. No real reads apart from this.

Hero's image: about 18/14 TAG, but this prob doesnt matter to villian.

Obviously after pf action Im not giving him any real credit for a hand, but his minr on flop puts me in a tough spot. He could have some sort of underpair/Qx/Kx/possibly air here, and Im really not sure how he plays in big pots either.

Given villian has 175bb (and I cover), what's my play?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($0)
Button ($694.04)
SB ($396)
Hero ($786.40)
UTG ($400)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $16</font>, Button calls $16, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $73</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $59.

Flop: ($168) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $120</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $240</font>, Hero ???
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:12 PM
poker1O1 poker1O1 is offline
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Default Re: 400nl: Argggghhh villian minraises flop (deepish stacks)

call and b/f turn. If you're uncomfortable with this situation. c/c flop and b/f turn.
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: 400nl: Argggghhh villian minraises flop (deepish stacks)

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call and b/f turn. If you're uncomfortable with this situation. c/c flop and b/f turn.

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what the [censored] does this accomplish?
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: 400nl: Argggghhh villian minraises flop (deepish stacks)

uhh, pot will be over 600 on turn and button will have 400 left lol.
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:43 PM
Pasterbator Pasterbator is offline
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Default Re: 400nl: Argggghhh villian minraises flop (deepish stacks)

check the flop duh.
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: 400nl: Argggghhh villian minraises flop (deepish stacks)

i think betting the flop is okay. I would just pitch it once he minraises.
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:10 AM
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Default Re: 400nl: Argggghhh villian minraises flop (deepish stacks)

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check the flop duh.

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Old 08-15-2007, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: 400nl: Argggghhh villian minraises flop (deepish stacks)

checking the flop after 3 betting pre=stupid in most cases
as played id just fold..calling his minraise is bad and raising is commiting your stack, why would he minraise here? what is he trying to accomplish? it looks like he wants you to shove..what do you think he puts you on? you 3 bet pf and hes minraising your c bet..i dont think hes scared of aces
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: 400nl: Argggghhh villian minraises flop (deepish stacks)

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checking the flop after 3 betting pre=stupid in most cases


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No it's not
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Old 08-15-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: 400nl: Argggghhh villian minraises flop (deepish stacks)

can you give me an example of when 3 betting pf and not c betting is a good play?
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