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Old 07-02-2007, 07:18 PM
grindplz grindplz is offline
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Default Stone cold Bluff, Turns into Rivered set Getting CRAI 300 bb deep

Villain seems taggy and very aggro. Something like 17/14/4

Bet more on river? call river bet after I bet small and possibly induced a bluff?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($232.55)
BB ($1092.25)
UTG ($422.20)
MP ($765)
CO ($1695.55)
Hero ($1723.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $18</font>, Hero calls $18, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($57) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $42</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $120</font>, BB folds, CO calls $78.

Turn: ($297) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $225</font>, CO calls $225.

River: ($747) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $355</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1332.55</font>,
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: Stone cold Bluff, Turns into Rivered set Getting CRAI 300 bb deep

i want to call so fn bad.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: Stone cold Bluff, Turns into Rivered set Getting CRAI 300 bb deep

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i want to call so fn bad.

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Yeah this hand really sucks! :-(

I dunno what to do here, his river raise is weird, why not just push? Maybe he's bluffing with the A of hearts and thinks a push looks too bluffy? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
But why would he bluff here, if hero isn't valuebetting super thin alot it's studpid. I don't see him cr worse either.
He might show you the nuts here.

Edit: Maybe I'm reading the converter wrong and he actualy did push.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: Stone cold Bluff, Turns into Rivered set Getting CRAI 300 bb deep

that is such a bad flop to float-raise on.

Anyways, you're beat. Fold
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: Stone cold Bluff, Turns into Rivered set Getting CRAI 300 bb deep

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that is such a bad flop to float-raise on.

Anyways, you're beat. Fold

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villain is 17/14 - basically removes straight possiblities
villain checked the turn - which i doubt he would do with a flush
villain c/r ai on the river - ruling out other sets imo

i'm not so sure we're beat
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: Stone cold Bluff, Turns into Rivered set Getting CRAI 300 bb deep

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that is such a bad flop to float-raise on.

Anyways, you're beat. Fold

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Old 07-02-2007, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: Stone cold Bluff, Turns into Rivered set Getting CRAI 300 bb deep

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that is such a bad flop to float-raise on.

Anyways, you're beat. Fold

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yeah flop raise here isn't too believable and having two outs isn't very exciting
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:13 PM
teh_mewse teh_mewse is offline
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Default Re: Stone cold Bluff, Turns into Rivered set Getting CRAI 300 bb deep

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that is such a bad flop to float-raise on.

Anyways, you're beat. Fold

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villain is 17/14 - basically removes straight possiblities
villain checked the turn - which i doubt he would do with a flush
villain c/r ai on the river - ruling out other sets imo

i'm not so sure we're beat

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Ok i see we disagree on some things, lets get one thing out of the way first - Terrible flop to float-raise on, correct?

On whether we're beat or not, normally i'd say we're doing ok here, but the fact that this is 300bb's deep, i'm pretty sure we're up against a nut flush here
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: Stone cold Bluff, Turns into Rivered set Getting CRAI 300 bb deep

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that is such a bad flop to float-raise on.

Anyways, you're beat. Fold

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yeah flop raise here isn't too believable and having two outs isn't very exciting

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Yes, and not only is it not very believable, but its a dry enough flop that he'll turn into a station with the king, and and least call with a flush draw
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: Stone cold Bluff, Turns into Rivered set Getting CRAI 300 bb deep

this is like never a bluff btw, wtf can he get to the river with which needs to bluff and wants to try to make you fold a set or flush? if he thinks you're full of it he calls again, and bottom set isn't waiting until the river and then shoving this much money in
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