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Old 07-02-2007, 04:34 PM
knowledgeORbust knowledgeORbust is offline
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Default 25NL: How\'s this shove w/ 88 vs. shorties?

MP, the original raiser, is 35/14/.8 over 80 hands.
CO is 26/18/.6 over 45.

Basically just wondering if this shove is +EV against two virtual randoms. No reads (not paying attention, too many tables, etc.)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($4.60)
Hero ($25.10)
BB ($8.40)
UTG ($62.60)
MP ($13.20)
CO ($10.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $10.2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25.1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $12.20 (All-In).
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:38 PM
HojoMofo HojoMofo is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: How\'s this shove w/ 88 vs. shorties?

no, this move is not good against unknowns
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Old 07-02-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: 25NL: How\'s this shove w/ 88 vs. shorties?

Ugh... I dont like this at all.... the best you can be is 5050, but I doubt it. Fold
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Old 07-02-2007, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: 25NL: How\'s this shove w/ 88 vs. shorties?

Bad play. 88 is not that great of a hand. There are 6 pocket pairs that you are a favorite against(2-7) and 6 pocket pairs you are way behind (9-A). The villains will most likely have at least one overcard if they dont have a pocket pair, and since there's two callers..... you are screwed.
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Old 07-02-2007, 05:11 PM
Ten Dollar Man Ten Dollar Man is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: How\'s this shove w/ 88 vs. shorties?

In my experience, unless they push pre-flop all the time, players with shorter stacks who push like that often has a monster (AA-KK), or a hand they know is good but dont know how to play well(QQ-TT).
Sure, he could be a loose cannon pushing A5, but it's seems quite unlikely given we don't know very much about him. Low post-flop aggression factor speaks agains him being a loose cannon too.

So, I think you have to give him credit for some kind of hand, its a steep re-raise (10 x MP-raise), and I think that it is quit unlikely that he would make such a move with a pair lower than 88 or an Ax hand (x=lower than 8), so you are either just slightly ahead (if he has AK-A9) or way behind (if he has KK-99). Plus the apparent risk of the original raiser calling.

I'd fold.
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