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05-17-2007, 09:55 AM
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Re: NL 10 - KK in SB.
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[ QUOTE ] If you check with KK here then you also have to check here when you have an A and we would then lose value. [/ QUOTE ] I occationally check AK here, mainly when the board is rainbow. Is that bad? [/ QUOTE ] Not against the right opponent, but I wouldn't bother with it too much at NL10 since they will call you down with some pretty weak hands. 
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#23
05-17-2007, 09:55 AM
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Re: NL 10 - KK in SB.
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[ QUOTE ] I think for me, checking KK here is certainly more player dependant. [/ QUOTE ] I think for me, checking KK here should be more player dependent. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] LMAO [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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#24
05-17-2007, 09:56 AM
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Re: NL 10 - KK in SB.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you check with KK here then you also have to check here when you have an A and we would then lose value. [/ QUOTE ] I occationally check AK here, mainly when the board is rainbow. Is that bad? [/ QUOTE ] Not against the right opponent, but I wouldn't bother with it too much at NL10 since they will call you down with some pretty weak hands. [/ QUOTE ] It is really opponent and stack dependent. I think it is right more than people will say though.
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#26
05-17-2007, 11:03 AM
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Re: NL 10 - KK in SB.
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So, if a player occassionally checks an A here, are you ever calling or raising the .50 bet? If so, what's the turn action? Is everyone folding here? [/ QUOTE ] I am not sure what you are asking exactly.
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#27
05-17-2007, 11:27 AM
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Re: NL 10 - KK in SB.
I'm asking for more opinions on what to do on the flop. I've read maybe two. The conversation seemed to move toward when to c-bet, when not to, etc., but I'd like more opinions on the hand itself now that hero has checked and villain has bet.
Do you call, raise, or fold your KK to villain's less-than-half-pot bet on flop?
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#28
05-17-2007, 11:34 AM
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Re: NL 10 - KK in SB.
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I'm asking for more opinions on what to do on the flop. I've read maybe two. The conversation seemed to move toward when to c-bet, when not to, etc., but I'd like more opinions on the hand itself now that hero has checked and villain has bet. Do you call, raise, or fold your KK to villain's less-than-half-pot bet on flop? [/ QUOTE ] At this point call and evaluate on the turn. If Villian pops in a larger sized bet on the turn you can lay it down.
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#29
05-17-2007, 12:31 PM
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Re: NL 10 - KK in SB.
I would definitely bet this flop to find out were you stand; by checking you are inducing bluffs, semibluffs and people with middlepair who bet; people at this level would expect you to bet if you had an ace, so they assume you haven't got it here. As played I would call and lead the turn. If you check the turn you can probably expect another bet, people still think you haven't got the ace, but some kind of middlepair. I would for what it's worth.
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#30
05-17-2007, 12:44 PM
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Re: NL 10 - KK in SB.
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I would definitely bet this flop to find out were you stand; by checking you are inducing bluffs, semibluffs and people with middlepair who bet; people at this level would expect you to bet if you had an ace, so they assume you haven't got it here. As played I would call and lead the turn. If you check the turn you can probably expect another bet, people still think you haven't got the ace, but some kind of middlepair. I would for what it's worth. [/ QUOTE ] Larude, think about what you are saying. You want to bet to prevent people with lesser hands from betting? Inducing bluffs is not a bad thing. I think betting out has its merits since we don't mind taking it down as we are OOP and there is a FD out. But you are basically saying you want to bet in order to get middle pairs that we beat to fold? Am I correct or am I missing something in your post? Your post gives the merits of CHECKING KK - we may get aggressive opponents to continue with hands that we beat. betting/raising for information alone is usually not good. It should be a secondary consideration.
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