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07-28-2007, 04:45 PM
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current American politicians that you respect
Russ Feingold is the only one that comes to my mind. He is hands down the best senator in our country.
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#2
07-28-2007, 04:56 PM
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Re: current American politicians that you respect
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Russ Feingold is the only one that comes to my mind. He is hands down the best senator in our country. [/ QUOTE ] Serious question. Is this supposed to be a joke? Leveling? The guy sponsored a bill that infringes on the First Ammendment, specifically regarding political speech, which is pretty much the EXACT kind of speech that you want protected. That alone makes him an evil douchebag. Edit: Who the [censored] deleted my other post? Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Fine. I respect Ron Paul because he's the only member of the gang of 535 who is not an unprincipled powerhungry evil bastard. He has never voted for an unconstitutional bill, has never voted to raise taxes, wants to abolish the IRS and replace it with nothing, wants to abolish the Fed and put the country back on a hard money standard. He understands economics, is principled, and is not a demagogue.
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07-28-2007, 05:04 PM
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Re: current American politicians that you respect
What bill are you talking about? Is it this one?
On July 14, 2005, Feingold introduced a bill to the Senate that would ban lobbyists from giving gifts to Senators and impose a $50,000 fine for violating the ban; force lawmakers to sign statements saying that lobbyists did not pay their travel expenses; forbid lawmakers from traveling on corporate jets; bar congressmen, staffers, and executive branch officials from serving as lobbyists for two years after leaving office; and require that lobbying reports be disclosed on a quarterly, rather than semi-annual, basis.
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07-28-2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: current American politicians that you respect
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[ QUOTE ] What bill are you talking about? [/ QUOTE ] McCain-Feingold. Yet another in a long line of Incumbent Protection Acts. [/ QUOTE ] I think you are wrong.
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07-28-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: current American politicians that you respect
RON PAUL,
because he actually acts on his beliefs, rather than being a giant douchebag and voting in pork. I would honestly forgive just about any politician for anything ever if they swore off ever voting for pork spending bills.
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07-28-2007, 05:15 PM
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Re: current American politicians that you respect
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What bill are you talking about? [/ QUOTE ] McCain-Feingold. Yet another in a long line of Incumbent Protection Acts. [/ QUOTE ] I think you are wrong. [/ QUOTE ] It explicitly outlaws certain kinds of political speech. Outlawing something is pretty clearly "infringing" upon it.
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07-28-2007, 05:18 PM
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Re: current American politicians that you respect
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What bill are you talking about? [/ QUOTE ] McCain-Feingold. Yet another in a long line of Incumbent Protection Acts. [/ QUOTE ] I think you are wrong. [/ QUOTE ] It explicitly outlaws certain kinds of political speech. Outlawing something is pretty clearly "infringing" upon it. [/ QUOTE ] Can you be more detailed please? Is giving senators free golf trips and expensive hookers a form of political speech?
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#10
07-28-2007, 06:04 PM
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Re: current American politicians that you respect
Campaign finance reform, done under the guise of preventing special interests and lobbyists from buying influence, actually has the effect of making it a lot easier for incumbents to stay in office and significantly decreases the threat of new candidates. Hypothetically, if you have a 3 term incumbent with name recognition and a new challenger, if they are both limited to spending 5 million dollars, it will be a lot harder for the challenger to make up for the head start the incumbent has. So when politicians go around promoting campaign finance reform and saying all the right things, they are really doing it to increase they own job security and make it harder for people to get them out of office. I am grossly oversimplifying things but that is the general effect. If you search around you can find someone who can explain it way better than I just did.
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