KK early in tournament

[Pondy]

MTT. blinds t10/t20. Starting stack t1500

1st or 2nd hand of tourney, reads not possible yet.

UTG+1 raises to t250
You in CO gets KK.

Raise or Shove ?

If raise how much ?

[registrar]

Shove or call I think is the question here.

[Pondy]

Hypothetically:-

you call
flop 2 Q A
he insta shoves, you ?

how about
flop j 10 2
he insta shoves, you ?

both rainbow flops

[Fiksdal]

I like a push preflop here.

Fold flop 1, and beat him into the pot on flop 2.

[registrar]

My main point is that there is not much point in raising anything less than a push.

As for the hypotheticals, definitely call an open push with an overpair to the board. On an AQx flop, it depends on the buyin and site but one of my biggest $ leaks is just thinking "I really can't be be bothered with this" and calling to see villain table A2s.

[kingwood kid]

Shove. This is online, right? He'll probably call with 6-3o.

[Fiksdal]

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Shove. This is online, right? He'll probably call with 6-3o.

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Stop giving bad advice. Villains raising and calling range here is tighter than any two cards.

[kingwood kid]

Post said early in online tournament, so I still think this is highly possible, especially from CO. Only 1 hand beats us, and if he's not a moron, he wouldn't have raised to 12.5 BB in an unopened pot with AA, because that would kill the action. Anyone who bets like that won't be around long. You need to get their chips before someone else does: this is the perfect opportunity.

[registrar]

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he's a moron, he has raised to 12.5 BB in an unopened pot

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FYP

[Fiksdal]

kingwood

I think we agree on the most important part here: That we extremely likely have the best hand, are delighted of this large raise, and the best way to get the rest of villains money is probably to just push.

I think a very likely range for this raise is 88-QQ or possibly AK.

BTW, I think villain folds close to never preflop after making this raise.