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Old 09-16-2007, 10:55 PM
jack492505 jack492505 is offline
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Default flopped bottom 2; lots of action

villains are both unknowns. don't really know what to do in this spot.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $3.15
Hero (BB): $54.35
UTG: $14.35
MP: $33.40
CO: $41.70
BTN: $19.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

Flop: ($2.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.25</font>, MP calls $2.25, <font color="red">CO raises to $4.50</font>, BTN calls $4.50, SB folds,
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:00 PM
jallabar jallabar is offline
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Default Re: flopped bottom 2; lots of action

You are probably against TPWK and a flushdraw, your bottom 2look good enough to get it AI for me.
reraise AI and hope no club pops up [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:05 PM
jack492505 jack492505 is offline
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Default Re: flopped bottom 2; lots of action

does CO call with anything i beat? I dunno i kind of hate every option in this spot. Can't fold, don't wanna let the draw get there so cheap if i call, but if i raise and they call i think I'm behind a lot.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: flopped bottom 2; lots of action

I put CO on a flush or straight draw, would have raised weak Axo IMO from LP. That would be me though, other thoughts are much appreciated.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: flopped bottom 2; lots of action

You have to have a read that CO would raise a limper with A-rag offsuit here, so he could definitely have A-rag o. I'd fold because I really doubt that CO is raising a draw here when he's getting direct odds to draw.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: flopped bottom 2; lots of action

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I'd fold because I really doubt that CO is raising a draw here when he's getting direct odds to draw.

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I raise my draws for FE
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: flopped bottom 2; lots of action

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I'd fold because I really doubt that CO is raising a draw here when he's getting direct odds to draw.

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I raise my draws for FE

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This isn't a good situation for that.
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Old 09-16-2007, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: flopped bottom 2; lots of action

you are right spivey, too many people involved in the pot, I kinda missed that one, sry
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: flopped bottom 2; lots of action

I really think I fold here.. it's way to much action for this to hold up on the turn and river. So many cards in the deck are going to be potential scare cards.

If I thought I had a tight table image, I might mix it up the odd time and come in for a big raise. Against unknowns, I fold.
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Old 09-17-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: flopped bottom 2; lots of action

Minraises can be anything from TPNK to semibluffing/potbuilding with those draws to the nuts. Given that all villains are unknown, I just push. Way too many cards that can come on the turn that will kill your action and put you in a tough spot even more so since this is a multiway pot.
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