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Old 08-30-2007, 02:09 PM
KvGalen KvGalen is offline
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Default Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack

i think that If he's a good player if he decides to bet in this spot with QQ or JJ he's also going to be calling a push, if he views you as good/ aggro. He will only fold air here.
I like calling one barrel here a lot more, and fold if he bets turn. It's not too exploitable if you also flatcall flop sometimes with AK, KK AA in this spot
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Old 08-30-2007, 02:40 PM
Borsig Borsig is offline
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Default Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack

This is very wrong imo. I do not see a him calling here with JJ or QQ ever, the bet could be a c-bet but it's not like he is going to call your shove with those hand unless he have some kind of read. That said, i really don't like your shove at all, why would you bluff a player who is NOT 3-betting a lot on a K high rag board ? He is going to have AK or something like that here a lot. I think this is a massive -EV move.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:10 PM
FionnMac FionnMac is offline
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Default Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack

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russian FULLstack

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The only Russian fullstack that exists on Party is Pavel55, and he grinds lower stakes. I call B.S on this hand.
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Old 08-30-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack

I actually, for reasons unknown, thought Villain was a loose maniac till I saw he runs 19/12. I change my answer to be that this is a viable shove, as you probably aren't getting called by QQ/JJ incredibly often.

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Old 08-30-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: 88 3bet pot vs russian FULLstack

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I actually, for reasons unknown, thought Villain was a loose maniac till I saw he runs 19/12. I change my answer to be that this is a viable shove, as you probably aren't getting called by QQ/JJ incredibly often.

Fionnmac, I'm trying to send you a PM, your box is full.

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sorry, emptied now.

As for the hand, i think he might fold QQ/JJ etc sometimes, but i'm not sure how often he bets it, nits pot control c/c alot with these hands here i think.
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