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Old 11-25-2007, 10:08 PM
kerowo kerowo is offline
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Default Re: arrrgh, river flush but not sure if villian has better flush

Do we have reads that neither one of them knows how to read a board? Even donkey's have hands now and then, and when it's 2 back to me it's time to consider that YHING.
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: arrrgh, river flush but not sure if villian has better flush

I don't understand why you would 3-bet the flop. Could someone please explain?
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: arrrgh, river flush but not sure if villian has better flush

raise preflop you have equity against 5 this is the almost perfect big pot hand to hold.

flop reraise and cap if necessary.

Turn bet/call

River lead/3 bet don't cap and call 2.

Lose a lot or win a lot, I take it by the standard nature of posters you lost.

Oh well.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: arrrgh, river flush but not sure if villian has better flush

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I don't understand why you would 3-bet the flop. Could someone please explain?

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because there are multiple opponents willing to call and we are going to hit our flush and win. hopefully others will elaborate.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:17 AM
KaatzMeow KaatzMeow is offline
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Default Re: arrrgh, river flush but not sure if villian has better flush

You have 6 players putting money into the pot so you are getting 5:1 on your moeny and you are a less than 2:1 to hit your flush by the river, given that your flush will win. You could adjust your outs from 9 to 8 for flush over flush and still have equity to raise. At 7 outs your best action is to call.

Please correct me if my understanding is off.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: arrrgh, river flush but not sure if villian has better flush

Alright, cool. I understand value betting and I guess I just didn't know my odds were that good preflop. On the flop I usually use my odds of making the hand on the next card for my value betting, but apparently this is incorrect. (I need to finish reading ToP so I can read SSH).
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: arrrgh, river flush but not sure if villian has better flush

I don't like 3 betting the flop OOP w/ the 4th nut FD and MP2 looking like a FD also, with K or A of trump I would do it. I would bet the river here, having it checked thru would suck. Once I bet the river I call one and hope I could fold for two.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: arrrgh, river flush but not sure if villian has better flush

The reason to re-raise this flop is because of equity. You are putting in 25% of the money with four people (1/4). You will hit your flush ~35% of the time. So for every bet that goes into the pot with 4 people you make money. I raise this up everytime it is very much +EV.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: arrrgh, river flush but not sure if villian has better flush

i don't hate not 3betting the flop for a couple of factors; as played i'd 3bet the river and fold to a cap.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: arrrgh, river flush but not sure if villian has better flush

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I don't like 3 betting the flop OOP w/ the 4th nut FD and MP2 looking like a FD also

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O RLY? MP2 Cold calling 2 bets on the flop makes you think he has a bigger flush? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

This is why you should not post results to a hand.
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