PNL & the Jocks vs Nerds issue

[belgian in TO]

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What would be more interesting to me is a book on Adapting, not just to 6-max but to any game.

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Spot on!!! To my limited understanding, winning poker is ALL about adapting. Loose vs. tight, passive vs. aggro, in all combinations of pre-flop and post-flop play at your table --how EXACTLY does it affect your game plan?

I'd definitely buy a book delving into this. I imagine such book would include sample hands from both 6-max and FR games.

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[daveT]

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You mean the same way that NL players think that they are better people for not playing Limit?

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Yes, exactly.

Speaking as a former limit specialist, many uninformed NL players read Super/System and latch onto Doyle's comments about limit players not having "guts." Frankly, I think it's much harder to play limit well consistently over a long period of time.

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I started playing Limit and know what you are thinking. I then dipped in FR NL, then 6 max.

Remember that the vast majority of players here aren't winning anything, and when they talk smack, they have no appreciation for the over-all game. When they say that Limit is easy, they probably never tried playing it. When anyone says that one form of poker is easier, they are insulting anyone who has spent years mastering that form of poker.

I could go on and on, but if one of the "cool kids" sits at you FR game, you will probably crush them.

[phydaux]

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if one of the "cool kids" sits at you FR game, you will probably crush them.

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Only if they don't make the correct adjustments.

If the cool kid had read PNL vol II, and if PNL vol II is all about adjustments, then they will, and I won't. But of course if I have, then I will. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[JohnG]

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I made this tread asking them to make vol II more general but to then go ahead and write another book devoted entirely to 6-max. I believe 6-max deserves through treatment, but I think that vol II would be better if, like vol I, it is full of concepts that can apply to any NL situation.

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I agree with you here, although I don't really think a 6 max book is needed. If you have a good understanding of no limit, then you have the ability to adapt. And you will then appreciate there not being a 6 max cookbook available to the public. I hope vol 2 will be like vol 1, with certain examples and sections relating to the 6 max arena to illustrate those general principles and adjustments in action. Helping to develop a well rounded understanding of poker that will help you adapt to any game or conditions.

I find it funny, all these people wanting books designed around various game conditions. Conditions that likely change over time, especially if cookbooks relating to those conditions are written. Learn to do it yourself by developing a fundamental understanding of big bet poker in general. Thats the kind of instruction that's best, and thankfully Matt and Sunny seem to be following that path. Doing it this way, rather than having a 6 max specific book available will prove much more beneficial and profitable.

[JohnG]

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What would be more interesting to me is a book on Adapting, not just to 6-max but to any game.

Matt

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I'm glad you have this view.