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Old 10-06-2007, 12:37 PM
MrWooster MrWooster is offline
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Default 20NL JJ flops set - turn scare card

Villain is 55/5 over very small sample, and as far as I can see he has not shown any major aggression

I am fairly new to the table and my image should be pretty tight

Carlos Poker 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button <font color="#C00000">Button ($25.93)</font>
SB ($1.45)
BB ($7.41)
UTG <font color="#C00000">Hero ($19.90)</font>
UTG+1 UTG+1 ($18.69)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero raises to 0.80, UTG+1 calls 0.80, Button calls 0.80, 2 folds.

Flop (2.70) J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero bets 2.02, 1 fold, Button calls 2.02.

Turn (6.74) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
What do you bet here and do you call a shove, if called do you shove river?
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: 20NL JJ flops set - turn scare card

Bet, call shove(but it sucks)
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: 20NL JJ flops set - turn scare card

maybe not call shove, computing that pot sucks bad.

I need to go practice math lolz
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:00 PM
MrWooster MrWooster is offline
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Default Re: 20NL JJ flops set - turn scare card

Ok - what about now...


Carlos Poker 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button <font color="#C00000">Button ($25.93)</font>
SB ($1.45)
BB ($7.41)
UTG <font color="#C00000">Hero ($19.90)</font>
UTG+1 UTG+1 ($18.69)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero raises to 0.80, UTG+1 calls 0.80, Button calls 0.80, 2 folds.

Flop (2.70) J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero bets 2.02, 1 fold, Button calls 2.02.

Turn (6.74) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets 5.05, Button moves all-in for 23.11, Hero has $12 left to call - pot is about $35
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:10 PM
hennnerz hennnerz is offline
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Default Re: 20NL JJ flops set - turn scare card

Call shove. I think you are getting just about good enough odds here? Maybe bet more on flop; PSB. It is a very scary flop for your hand.
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Old 10-06-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: 20NL JJ flops set - turn scare card

Yeah - I agree with the bet sizing - I think that I should have potted flop and turn - would also had given me even better odds to call a shove...
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Old 10-06-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: 20NL JJ flops set - turn scare card

i´m betting here. if called i c/c a blank river to let him bluff missed draws.
concerning a push from a unknown i usually call here. i´m not sure this is right though regarding that i stack off way too light against unknowns.
villain knows that this is a scare card for you and may try to push you off the pot.
his range for calling you preflop is pretty wide though and there are a lot of draws he could have picked up.
so imo your equity against his range is really good and even if villain has you beat you have a lot of outs.
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