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04-13-2007, 08:00 PM
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question about child support
Why should a guy have to pay child support if a girl gets pregnant outside of marriage?
My proposed solution: if a girl gets pregnant she has the right to get an abortion. When she chooses not to have an abortion she has decided to take the baby and all the responsibilities for the baby. It does not seem fair to me that the man has no say at all whether or not the baby is born but has to pay regardless of choosing to keep the baby or not. It seems more fair that the woman can choose whether or not to keep the baby but should have to pay herself. My guess is that I'm overlooking something important, so help me out. 
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#2
04-13-2007, 08:10 PM
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Re: question about child support
I think you are conceptualizing it wrong. Child support is for the child. Child shouldn't have to suffer in substandard living conditions because moms didnt abort it.
and the man did choose. he chose to stick his thing in her, he knows the risks. if man wants a sure way to avoid this, homosexuality always an option.
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#3
04-13-2007, 08:18 PM
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Re: question about child support
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I think you are conceptualizing it wrong. Child support is for the child. Child shouldn't have to suffer in substandard living conditions because moms didnt abort it. and the man did choose. he chose to stick his thing in her, he knows the risks. if man wants a sure way to avoid this, homosexuality always an option. [/ QUOTE ]okay good first point and I think that sums up exactly what I was overlooking, but a side note....point 2 doesn't apply. I'm proposing a new law. Under the current laws, yes the man should know the risks before sticking it in, but why should it be that way?
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#4
04-13-2007, 08:21 PM
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Re: question about child support
It absolutely applies. You said:
[ QUOTE ] It does not seem fair to me that the man has no say at all whether or not the baby is born but has to pay regardless of choosing to keep the baby or not. [/ QUOTE ] The man had his "say".
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#5
04-13-2007, 08:24 PM
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Re: question about child support
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I'm proposing a new law. Under the current laws, yes the man should know the risks before sticking it in, but why should it be that way? [/ QUOTE ] lol ... so why can't I do whatever I want and not have to take responsibility for my actions? great idea... Sorry you knocked her up, dude, hope it works out for the kid
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#6
04-13-2007, 08:30 PM
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Re: question about child support
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[ QUOTE ] I'm proposing a new law. Under the current laws, yes the man should know the risks before sticking it in, but why should it be that way? [/ QUOTE ] lol ... so why can't I do whatever I want and not have to take responsibility for my actions? great idea... Sorry you knocked her up, dude, hope it works out for the kid [/ QUOTE ]ummm, first off this is a theory question Second off look at it like this chart: having a baby: who has a say? Woman wants baby, Man wants baby = baby Woman wants baby, Man doesn't want baby = baby Woman doesn't want baby, Man wants baby = no baby Woman doesn't want baby, Man doesn't want baby = no baby woman has sole responsibility of whether or not the baby gets born. Why should man have to pay for the woman's decision?
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#7
04-13-2007, 08:55 PM
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Re: question about child support
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm proposing a new law. Under the current laws, yes the man should know the risks before sticking it in, but why should it be that way? [/ QUOTE ] lol ... so why can't I do whatever I want and not have to take responsibility for my actions? great idea... Sorry you knocked her up, dude, hope it works out for the kid [/ QUOTE ]ummm, first off this is a theory question Second off look at it like this chart: having a baby: who has a say? Woman wants baby, Man wants baby = baby Woman wants baby, Man doesn't want baby = baby Woman doesn't want baby, Man wants baby = no baby Woman doesn't want baby, Man doesn't want baby = no baby woman has sole responsibility of whether or not the baby gets born. Why should man have to pay for the woman's decision? [/ QUOTE ] Your forgetting some things: Woman doesn't want baby, man doesn't want baby, woman decides to have baby to spite man (perfectly legal) Woman wants baby, man doesn't want baby- woman lies to man and says she can't have baby- she has baby man foots the bill The woman can do what she wants and the man is forced through the court at the threat of jail to pay for her decisions. It is simply not fair. Of course people have been propagandized to spout off rationalizations for why it's OK to vicitimize the man in these situations as we see in the responses here but this does not make it fair, or reasonable. The law should be that a woman has the legal obligation to inform the man she is pregnant so that he can go to court to 'abort' any legal and/or financial obligations to the future baby. Then the woman can stil decide to have the baby and raise it herself or give it for adoption.
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#8
04-16-2007, 11:34 AM
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Re: question about child support
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm proposing a new law. Under the current laws, yes the man should know the risks before sticking it in, but why should it be that way? [/ QUOTE ] lol ... so why can't I do whatever I want and not have to take responsibility for my actions? great idea... Sorry you knocked her up, dude, hope it works out for the kid [/ QUOTE ]ummm, first off this is a theory question Second off look at it like this chart: having a baby: who has a say? Woman wants baby, Man wants baby = baby Woman wants baby, Man doesn't want baby = baby Woman doesn't want baby, Man wants baby = no baby Woman doesn't want baby, Man doesn't want baby = no baby woman has sole responsibility of whether or not the baby gets born. Why should man have to pay for the woman's decision? [/ QUOTE ] because a lot of the time it's not a "decision". It just happens.
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#9
04-13-2007, 08:49 PM
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Re: question about child support
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[ QUOTE ] I'm proposing a new law. Under the current laws, yes the man should know the risks before sticking it in, but why should it be that way? [/ QUOTE ] lol ... so why can't I do whatever I want and not have to take responsibility for my actions? great idea... [/ QUOTE ] Um, because woman have the legal right to abort any legal or financial responsibilities for a baby despite engaging in actions that result in a fetus that will turn into a baby. She has this legal right so the man deserves the same legal right.
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#10
04-13-2007, 09:00 PM
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Re: question about child support
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm proposing a new law. Under the current laws, yes the man should know the risks before sticking it in, but why should it be that way? [/ QUOTE ] lol ... so why can't I do whatever I want and not have to take responsibility for my actions? great idea... [/ QUOTE ] Um, because woman have the legal right to abort any legal or financial responsibilities for a baby despite engaging in actions that result in a fetus that will turn into a baby. She has this legal right so the man deserves the same legal right. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe the man would have that right if he had to carry the baby to term ... oops, guess there are differences...
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