$50 check my FE

[bozzer]

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$56.15</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$16.60</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$37.66</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$54.35</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$49.50</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$43.00</font>)

Pre-flop: ($1.25, 6 players) Hero is BTN 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.5 ($16.10), <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $2


Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6.5, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks ($14.10), <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG+1 calls $4

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($14.5, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks ($10.10), <font color="#0000cc"> Hero ($47.85)?</font>

villain is 35/0/2 over 30 hands.


if i shove i get a fold here more than one time in three, correct?

assuming that his call frequency here = his call frequency if i river a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], and i never win the pot if i miss, is it better to shove or check the turn?

[ama0330]

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if i shove i get a fold here more than one time in three, correct?

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Better question. If you had any kind of strong hand like a house, trips, even Ax, would you shove or would you make a normal sized bet?

[ama0330]

Wait I just noticed stack sizes. Take the free card, definitely. You have no FE. Check the board texture, i.e. bone dry, and the fact that the turn changes nothing with regard to his relative hand strength. He has no reason to fold anything that he called on the flop with.

[bozzer]

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if i shove i get a fold here more than one time in three, correct?

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Better question. If you had any kind of strong hand like a house, trips, even Ax, would you shove or would you make a normal sized bet?

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i would shove. see stack sizes.

[ama0330]

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if i shove i get a fold here more than one time in three, correct?

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Better question. If you had any kind of strong hand like a house, trips, even Ax, would you shove or would you make a normal sized bet?

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i would shove. see stack sizes.

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yeah just noticed, see my second post [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

[Lego05]

FE is dubious here especially since if he had a T there's zip chance he's folding that now. And he still isn't folding an A.

[bozzer]

you think average villains respect the ace enough to dump pps on the flop mostly?

[bozzer]

btw i reckon i make roughly

chance of hitting * his calling freq * $10

0.2 * 0.33 * $10 = +$0.66

on top of the current pot by checking when he has a roughly breakeven calling frequency for the turn shove.

[Lego05]

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you think average villains respect the ace enough to dump pps on the flop mostly?

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Not always...but usually especially if the pocket pair isn't paint which it is not likely to be here since he limped and that also means that there were at least 2 overcards on the flop if he had a pocket pair.

[Profish2285]

I have to agree with Lego here. IME, if a villain is bad enough to call this flop with a pp below the T, he is not going to be folding it on the turn either usually.