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Old 05-29-2007, 12:02 PM
Sasuke Sasuke is offline
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Default Re: 2550 4 way coord board. nut draw.

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Games is 4 handed. I have 5000.
CO(7600) opens to 200 - button(5000) who is bad call, I call in SB with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] , BB(5500) who is bad calls.

Flop(800) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
CO bets 550, button folds, I call, BB raise to 1755 total - CO fold, I call.

Turn(4860) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
I push for 3070.

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I dont really like it. Usually with a gutter or str+flush draw, youre going to push the flop right? i dont really see you pushing out many hands.

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but what about 1 pair hand with oesd's that intend to get it in on non spade turn ? - I am aware that it is the standard play to just get the money in on this flop and it is never too bad. But I think there's something to be said for trying to make ones range a bit harder to guess for villian.
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:30 PM
klownage klownage is offline
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Default Re: 2550 4 way coord board. nut draw.

flop play is ugh.
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:53 PM
Tyler Durden Tyler Durden is offline
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Default Re: 2550 4 way coord board. nut draw.

I think this line makes your holding pretty transparent to a decent hand reader, anyone agree?
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:59 PM
Hardgrove Hardgrove is offline
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Default Re: 2550 4 way coord board. nut draw.

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I think this line makes your holding pretty transparent to a decent hand reader, anyone agree?

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yet a lot of you seem to think and have the impression that everyone in general tries to get it in on the flop with the nut flush draw... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] That being said; not many hands that have a straight on the turn, doesnt at least have a pair to go with it on the flop and therefore would normally just shove it in on the flop.
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Old 05-29-2007, 02:08 PM
Sasuke Sasuke is offline
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Default Re: 2550 4 way coord board. nut draw.

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I think this line makes your holding pretty transparent to a decent hand reader, anyone agree?

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80% of replies here advocate to get it in on flop. Yet you imply that my line gives my hand away as if my line is the standard play for my hand.
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Old 05-29-2007, 03:14 PM
Kalashnikov Kalashnikov is offline
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Default Re: 2550 4 way coord board. nut draw.

Ive been thinking a bit more about this, and I actually dont dislike it as much as first time I saw it. I think its pretty neutral ev compared to (push flop and) a turncheck and it and its probably better metagame wise.
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